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Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Postby kaitokidsama » June 19th, 2012, 3:40 pm

[spoiler] The Florescent tape would have made the tape noticeable. The mirror was used for help in executing the plan. The culprit was able to see the shadows through the window across the street. The empty tape got the Director's attention. Then after hitting the Director, the Manager then cuts out some of the tape of which the Director attention was directed to.  [/spoiler]

I'm sorry that I'm messing this up. I didnt see the changes until after I posted. Sorry!
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Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Postby MDavid » June 19th, 2012, 3:52 pm

There is no problem at all, but the answer is still not correct.

I just posted a little summary on the previous page:

MDavid wrote:Here is a summary of what we already know:

[spoiler]The Manager is the culprit.
Somehow he made the Director fall and groan.
The room is dark.
The VCR had fluorescent tape on it.
The cassette tape was used by the culprit but it is empty now.
The culprit used his own remote controller(s).
A mirror was used from across the street.[/spoiler]


And some hint:

[spoiler]I think it can be easily guessed that the TV was used too. A tape and a VCR can not fully function all by themselves. ;)[/spoiler]
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Postby no one » June 20th, 2012, 1:08 pm

Since this riddle took long time i thought may be i shall try so here is my "wrong" solution (I hope it will help us getting more hints) [spoiler]The manager who is using the third room used his remote controllers to run a cassette in the director room.Since the room as dark(due to the missing bulbs the director left the curtain opened so the manager was able to use the mirror to control the TV and the VCR  ,lol, After suddenly running the VCR and the TV and startling the director somehow,may be the TV displayed a very bright scene that hurted his eyes, he used the remote controller to erase the tape and close both the TV and VCR . i don't know what to say about the light Conan saw and the evidence . not to mention that the signals of the remote controllers can't possibly reach the directors room.  [/spoiler]
since the above solution is clearly flawed I will give another one (which is incomplete and flawed too by the way)  :
[spoiler]the manager sneaked into the director room, harmed his eyes using the TV and the VCR,erased the tape and threw the controllers through the window which is the light Conan saw.Those controllers are the proof since the ones thrown in the street will match the managers' missing controllers. I don't know how to use the mirror in this solution  :-[ [/spoiler]
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Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Postby MDavid » June 20th, 2012, 5:02 pm

no one wrote:Since this riddle took long time i thought may be i shall try so here is my "wrong" solution (I hope it will help us getting more hints) [spoiler]The manager who is using the third room used his remote controllers to run a cassette in the director room.Since the room as dark(due to the missing bulbs the director left the curtain opened so the manager was able to use the mirror to control the TV and the VCR  ,lol, After suddenly running the VCR and the TV and startling the director somehow,may be the TV displayed a very bright scene that hurted his eyes, he used the remote controller to erase the tape and close both the TV and VCR . i don't know what to say about the light Conan saw and the evidence . not to mention that the signals of the remote controllers can't possibly reach the directors room.[/spoiler]


Sorry if the riddle is flawed, but this is kind of right. ;D

Solution:

[spoiler]The Director entered the room, closed the door, but he couldn't turn on the lights. At this moment the Manager from the other room turned on the TV and the VCR with his remote controllers through a mirror that is in a room of the hotel just across the street. He used the reflection of the fluorescent tape to aim. He played some bright, colourful, flickering video. This caused the Director to have an epileptic seizure. After this, the Manager erased the tape and turned the devices off. What Conan saw was the reflection of the fluorescent tape in the mirror across the street. The evidence is that the Manager had to book that room in the other hotel to ensure his plan. He wanted the Director to die or at least have a really bad experience. Motive is unknown.[/spoiler]

Yeah, I know this is crazy. Your turn. :)
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Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Postby sstimson » June 20th, 2012, 6:23 pm

Question. I hope you do not mind but There might be a better way to do what you did.

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First setup a closed circuit TV so he can see what is going on in that room. He might use a clock with a camera. There are currently all kinds of ways to hide a camera. Next Set up a remote control extender. That will increase the range on the remote with out requiring line of sight like most remotes. It would change the remote from an IR to a UHF signal.

With those two things set up He can now do the same thing from another room and no mirrors needed.
Next suggestion, while the victim is visiting the others hotel, lure him in to the room with a fake cry for help. Since all the light are broken the victim can not see the setup, but the other using an Infrared Camera ( Heat sensing ) can see all. When the victim gets to the right place he uses the remote to trigger on lots of light and thus the plan is complete. The tape need nothing on it so it would be blank. and the final remote triggers the setup to suddenly light up the room

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Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Postby MDavid » June 21st, 2012, 1:52 am

Needs more gadgets, but very good!
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Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Postby no one » June 21st, 2012, 6:38 am

I never thought that the light is caused by the fluorescent tape!!and never thought of this evidence too..
I don't have any riddle to post so i will just let anyone post... may be this is better .. after all "no one" can commit a perfect crime  :D 
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Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Postby kaitokidsama » June 22nd, 2012, 9:05 am

I'm just going to post a riddle since no-one decided someone else could give one.


There was this magician who was playing some smart tricks on the road side. One boy went to him and the man said to the boy, "I will just touch your forehead and write your actual name on this paper. If I am wrong then I will give you some of my magic stuffs, otherwise you have to give me $50." The boy agreed as he thought that no matter what name he writes, he will deny it. At the end, the boy was the one who lost the bet. How?
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Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Postby sstimson » June 22nd, 2012, 2:31 pm

That is too easy. I hope it is not the JOKE answer

[spoiler] The Man wrote "your actual name" on the paper. In others words those words "your actual name" [/spoiler]

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Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Postby kaitokidsama » June 22nd, 2012, 3:02 pm

Your right. I didn't think of a riddle so i just got it off the internet.
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Postby livvlaughlovee » June 25th, 2012, 6:36 pm

WELLLL, seeing as how sstimson defers to another the right to post a puzzle, and if defer means what I think it means, then I suppose it should be alright if I post a riddle?  ;D


You are a prisoner on death row, and your executioner is ruthless and enjoys playing games with his prisoners. He gives you two jars, with 50 marbles each. In one jar, the marbles are white, and in the other, the marbles are black. Before you are executed, he gives you a chance to survive. He lets you redistribute the marbles however you want, as long as all 100 marbles are in one of the two jars. He would then mix the jars up so that none of the marbles which were originally on top would still be on top, and you would be blindfolded. You would be given one of the jars at random, and you'd have to select a marble out of the jar provided. If the marble is white, you live, and if it's black, you die. How should you redistribute the marbles so the chances of survival are at their highest, and what is this maximum probability?
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Postby Kogorou » June 26th, 2012, 8:03 pm

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Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Postby MDavid » June 27th, 2012, 3:32 pm

I hope I take this right.

He lets you redistribute the marbles however you want, as long as all 100 marbles are in one of the two jars.


w is the number of white marbles in jar #1

b is the number of black marbles in jar #1

( 50 - w ) is the number of white marbles in jar #2

( 50 - b ) is the number of black marbles in jar #2

w , b = { 0 , 50 } integers

The probability of taking a white marble is:

0.5 * w / ( w + b ) + 0.5 * ( 50 - w ) / ( ( 50 - w ) + ( 50 - b ) )

There are two variables and 2601 variations.
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Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Postby livvlaughlovee » June 27th, 2012, 5:01 pm

Ohgosh, you lost me there. ._.
That wasn't quite what I was looking for, hmm. Or maybe I just don't understand it enough... :x
How should you redistribute the marbles so the chances of survival are at their highest, and what is this maximum probability?

I don't think any algebra would be needed to solve this, mm.. u_u
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Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Postby MDavid » June 27th, 2012, 5:35 pm

I know it isn't the solution what I posted. Just some facts. And yes, it seems it has to be solved without algebra. I think I have a solution but I can't fully prove it so I'm still working on this. :)

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