Mafia Round 12 - Bear Round! (Day Five...??)

[Kleene Onigiri]

GRYAWWWWWN.

Oh, and a question for rohoph (since there are no details about the dreams D:):

1. How many people can get a dream? Is it just 1 person that get's a dream? Or can it be more than 1 person?
2. Is it like: All facts in the dream are true? Just one fact is true? Or is it random. So everything in the dream can be true or everything can be false or some true, some false etc.

Allow me to direct your eyes to the following quote, with your answer bolded and underlined for viewing pleasure.

-During the night phases, the GM will randomly PM a dream to a player. The dream contains a total of five hints concerning the identities of other players, of only one of which is true.

(In case the first bolded wasn't clear, yes; only ONE player gets a dream- if ever there is a dream, per night phase.)

Oh, I didn't see that D: (guess was too sleepy XD)
Don't need to PM the other people that were in my dream then ;p For now :p

Kleene, you didn't even mention our burning of the Kleenex

It's nicely warm then. So :x
Let's get some marshmallows!

[Tanner-kun]

@the people wondering if i told anyone my night actions, i told 1 person *points to beastly's corpse*

[Grawwbear]

GRYAWWWWWN.

Oh, and a question for rohoph (since there are no details about the dreams D:):

1. How many people can get a dream? Is it just 1 person that get's a dream? Or can it be more than 1 person?
2. Is it like: All facts in the dream are true? Just one fact is true? Or is it random. So everything in the dream can be true or everything can be false or some true, some false etc.

Allow me to direct your eyes to the following quote, with your answer bolded and underlined for viewing pleasure.

-During the night phases, the GM will randomly PM a dream to a player. The dream contains a total of five hints concerning the identities of other players, of only one of which is true.

(In case the first bolded wasn't clear, yes; only ONE player gets a dream- if ever there is a dream, per night phase.)

Oh, I didn't see that D: (guess was too sleepy XD)
Don't need to PM the other people that were in my dream then ;p For now :p

Kleene, you didn't even mention our burning of the Kleenex

It's nicely warm then. So :x
Let's get some marshmallows!

Silly Giri.

[Callid]

Just a notification: As I don't have any time at all today, I can't afford to read the thread any further (I'm stuck on page 81). I'll therefore not be able to change my vote for the lynching based on any events after said page or be able to answer any PMs before the end of Day 1 (or more precisely, until Monday, 2.8., ~15:00 CET). Consequently, my will is also out-dated.
As far as I can already advice you (don't forget, I'm stuck before the end of Night 1), I'd suggest to lynch xpon, whom I'll vote for, yet all those assumptions are completely based on his behaviour in the thread before said page:
Takes back a kill-statement (P); asks if Anakota can shift the leader power (P); supports nomemory's ask for allies (N1)
Very suspicious; most likely Vermouth.
I'm sorry, I intend to make up for that as soon as possible. Have a nice lynching.

[nomemory]

Just a notification: As I don't have any time at all today, I can't afford to read the thread any further (I'm stuck on page 81). I'll therefore not be able to change my vote for the lynching based on any events after said page or be able to answer any PMs before the end of Day 1 (or more precisely, until Monday, 2.8., ~15:00 CET). Consequently, my will is also out-dated.
As far as I can already advice you (don't forget, I'm stuck before the end of Night 1), I'd suggest to lynch xpon, whom I'll vote for, yet all those assumptions are completely based on his behaviour in the thread before said page:
Takes back a kill-statement (P); asks if Anakota can shift the leader power (P); supports nomemory's ask for allies (N1)
Very suspicious; most likely Vermouth.
I'm sorry, I intend to make up for that as soon as possible. Have a nice lynching.

Wait, what was that about me? Xpon supporting me? Don't remember that one.

[Detective Tommy]

Either xpon or xcommando could be a BO. So, it is okay if we lynch xpon who is townie since xcommando will be proven BO. But it would be the worst case scenario if the two of them are townies and the BO are behind laughing at us.

It's still possible that both of them are BO, and it's all their plan. But this is highly unlikely because they would have minus 1 BO.

@the people wondering if i told anyone my night actions, i told 1 person *points to beastly's corpse*

Why did you trust Beastly so early in the game? You two can't be lovers or DB's. I trust your interrogation and I'm lynching xpon. But it's weird that the person you told, died. Since he can't say what's true/false.

Just a notification: As I don't have any time at all today, I can't afford to read the thread any further (I'm stuck on page 81). I'll therefore not be able to change my vote for the lynching based on any events after said page or be able to answer any PMs before the end of Day 1 (or more precisely, until Monday, 2.8., ~15:00 CET). Consequently, my will is also out-dated.
As far as I can already advice you (don't forget, I'm stuck before the end of Night 1), I'd suggest to lynch xpon, whom I'll vote for, yet all those assumptions are completely based on his behaviour in the thread before said page:
Takes back a kill-statement (P); asks if Anakota can shift the leader power (P); supports nomemory's ask for allies (N1)
Very suspicious; most likely Vermouth.
I'm sorry, I intend to make up for that as soon as possible. Have a nice lynching.

Wait, what was that about me? Xpon supporting me? Don't remember that one.

It says he supported your asking for allies. Basically he tried to alliance with you. Also, did you or xpon post anywhere that you two were trying to alliance (I don't remember this or I've might have missed the post)? If not, how did he know that xpon tried to alliance with you?

[Tanner-kun]

@the people wondering if i told anyone my night actions, i told 1 person *points to beastly's corpse*

Why did you trust Beastly so early in the game? You two can't be lovers or DB's. I trust your interrogation and I'm lynching xpon. But it's weird that the person you told, died. Since he can't say what's true/false.

he contacted me saying we would trade info and one at a time gave slight hint about are roles

EX:
Beastly: My role is a female
Xcomm: My role is a Male
Beastly: my role is on the lines of a protecter
xcomm: my role is a detective


and it continued like this untill he told me he was ran and i told him my role.

[nomemory]

Either xpon or xcommando could be a BO. So, it is okay if we lynch xpon who is townie since xcommando will be proven BO. But it would be the worst case scenario if the two of them are townies and the BO are behind laughing at us.

It's still possible that both of them are BO, and it's all their plan. But this is highly unlikely because they would have minus 1 BO.

@the people wondering if i told anyone my night actions, i told 1 person *points to beastly's corpse*

Why did you trust Beastly so early in the game? You two can't be lovers or DB's. I trust your interrogation and I'm lynching xpon. But it's weird that the person you told, died. Since he can't say what's true/false.

Just a notification: As I don't have any time at all today, I can't afford to read the thread any further (I'm stuck on page 81). I'll therefore not be able to change my vote for the lynching based on any events after said page or be able to answer any PMs before the end of Day 1 (or more precisely, until Monday, 2.8., ~15:00 CET). Consequently, my will is also out-dated.
As far as I can already advice you (don't forget, I'm stuck before the end of Night 1), I'd suggest to lynch xpon, whom I'll vote for, yet all those assumptions are completely based on his behaviour in the thread before said page:
Takes back a kill-statement (P); asks if Anakota can shift the leader power (P); supports nomemory's ask for allies (N1)
Very suspicious; most likely Vermouth.
I'm sorry, I intend to make up for that as soon as possible. Have a nice lynching.

Wait, what was that about me? Xpon supporting me? Don't remember that one.

It says he supported your asking for allies. Basically he tried to alliance with you. Also, did you or xpon post anywhere that you two were trying to alliance (I don't remember this or I've might have missed the post)? If not, how did he know that xpon tried to alliance with you?

I have not posted anything nor told anyone. But to call it a alliance is to really stretch it, he asked me not to kill him or lynch him in day one, and in night two we would talk more. Since I can't kill him it was easy to promise not to do that and since I'm against random lynching I thought that would be a piece of cake as well. I should have counted with the possibility of actually discovering a BO on night one, but now I have already promised and I don't want to back down on my word, I do hope you will have enough votes without me to take xpon down, if he is BO that is, but it does seem quite promising. Although him being so quiet is strange, I had expected a lot of posts in xponese accusing Xcom and random people. But maybe his playstyle changed. But now that I've thought about things for a while a have a faint memory of xpon agreeing it is good to have allies or something along those lines, but I really don't remember and trying to search for it in this load of random talk is not something I want to do.

[Detective Tommy]

he contacted me saying we would trade info and one at a time gave slight hint about are roles

EX:
Beastly: My role is a female
Xcomm: My role is a Male
Beastly: my role is on the lines of a protecter
xcomm: my role is a detective


and it continued like this untill he told me he was ran and i told him my role.

I see. You should always be careful though. Even if she was Ran, she could have been Vermouth in disguise. Also, because of Kleene, I'm hesitant on trusting people that tell their roles so early on.

I have not posted anything nor told anyone. But to call it a alliance is to really stretch it, he asked me not to kill him or lynch him in day one, and in night two we would talk more. Since I can't kill him it was easy to promise not to do that and since I'm against random lynching I thought that would be a piece of cake as well. I should have counted with the possibility of actually discovering a BO on night one, but now I have already promised and I don't want to back down on my word, I do hope you will have enough votes without me to take xpon down, if he is BO that is, but it does seem quite promising. Although him being so quiet is strange, I had expected a lot of posts in xponese accusing Xcom and random people. But maybe his playstyle changed. But now that I've thought about things for a while a have a faint memory of xpon agreeing it is good to have allies or something along those lines, but I really don't remember and trying to search for it in this load of random talk is not something I want to do.

Is it strange that Callid knew about you two being in contact?

[Holmes]

I guess lynching xpon is the best choice.

[Detective Tommy]

I guess lynching xpon is the best choice.

Yeah. Lucky that we found one on Day 1!

[nomemory]

he contacted me saying we would trade info and one at a time gave slight hint about are roles

EX:
Beastly: My role is a female
Xcomm: My role is a Male
Beastly: my role is on the lines of a protecter
xcomm: my role is a detective


and it continued like this untill he told me he was ran and i told him my role.

I see. You should always be careful though. Even if she was Ran, she could have been Vermouth in disguise. Also, because of Kleene, I'm hesitant on trusting people that tell their roles so early on.

I have not posted anything nor told anyone. But to call it a alliance is to really stretch it, he asked me not to kill him or lynch him in day one, and in night two we would talk more. Since I can't kill him it was easy to promise not to do that and since I'm against random lynching I thought that would be a piece of cake as well. I should have counted with the possibility of actually discovering a BO on night one, but now I have already promised and I don't want to back down on my word, I do hope you will have enough votes without me to take xpon down, if he is BO that is, but it does seem quite promising. Although him being so quiet is strange, I had expected a lot of posts in xponese accusing Xcom and random people. But maybe his playstyle changed. But now that I've thought about things for a while a have a faint memory of xpon agreeing it is good to have allies or something along those lines, but I really don't remember and trying to search for it in this load of random talk is not something I want to do.

Is it strange that Callid knew about you two being in contact?

I don't think he actually know that, looking at his comment it is about xpon commenting on me asking people interested in an alliance to contact me, not about us being in contact. But if he knows about us being in contact the it must have been xpon who said it, the only one I've talked to it about is Xcom. The first theory is imo most likely, especially if we consider that Callid haven't had much time for mafia, as stated by his post.

[Detective Tommy]

he contacted me saying we would trade info and one at a time gave slight hint about are roles

EX:
Beastly: My role is a female
Xcomm: My role is a Male
Beastly: my role is on the lines of a protecter
xcomm: my role is a detective


and it continued like this untill he told me he was ran and i told him my role.

I see. You should always be careful though. Even if she was Ran, she could have been Vermouth in disguise. Also, because of Kleene, I'm hesitant on trusting people that tell their roles so early on.

I have not posted anything nor told anyone. But to call it a alliance is to really stretch it, he asked me not to kill him or lynch him in day one, and in night two we would talk more. Since I can't kill him it was easy to promise not to do that and since I'm against random lynching I thought that would be a piece of cake as well. I should have counted with the possibility of actually discovering a BO on night one, but now I have already promised and I don't want to back down on my word, I do hope you will have enough votes without me to take xpon down, if he is BO that is, but it does seem quite promising. Although him being so quiet is strange, I had expected a lot of posts in xponese accusing Xcom and random people. But maybe his playstyle changed. But now that I've thought about things for a while a have a faint memory of xpon agreeing it is good to have allies or something along those lines, but I really don't remember and trying to search for it in this load of random talk is not something I want to do.

Is it strange that Callid knew about you two being in contact?

I don't think he actually know that, looking at his comment it is about xpon commenting on me asking people interested in an alliance to contact me, not about us being in contact. But if he knows about us being in contact the it must have been xpon who said it, the only one I've talked to it about is Xcom. The first theory is imo most likely, especially if we consider that Callid haven't had much time for mafia, as stated by his post.

Oh, I misread what he meant. I thought he was saying that xpon was suspicious for making an alliance with you. I don't recall anyone mentioning that you two allianced, so I thought it was weird.

[Akonyl]

I would have voted for xpon to be lynched anyway. I voted in my last two rounds for him to die firstly and now i do as well.

Man people should stop picking on xpon if they don't have any reason to.

But, in this case it's probably best to, because it looks like there's evidence involved.

RIP Beastly

XPON IS BO i just interrogated xpon he is BO i am going to lynch him tonight. i interrogated him since we always like to work together from the start of the game and beastly told me to interrogate him! please help me lynch him. i am not kogoro! he really came up as a BO and must be lynched! i am sorry xpon that we can't work together just don't take it personally!

Well, did anyone know you were going to interrogate him?
If no, then we can be almost sure that he was not slandered. Because randomly slandering one player in a crowd of 22(?) players (which should mean about 15 townies) has very low chances of success. I think Gin would have rather investigated (to make alliances with the town) or slandered one of their own members to reduce the chance of being detected. So if noone else knew about what you planed to do, your result is likely true.

On the other hand... we also have xpon. I mean, there is the chance that he is town and that Xcommando is BO, trying to get one of us lynched. So if there is anyone who can confirm that xpon is town, it would be nice to hear it now, before we lynch the wrong person.

That's what I also wanted to ask!

Anyway, I think if xcom told someone else than Beastly who he's going to interrogate (or if beastly told someone?) then it's also possible that both, xcom and xpon are town. And the only clue we would have in that situation would be if xcom tells us if he told anybody else he's going to interrogate. That person would be the BO then (if xpon and xcom are town)

It's also possible that xpon was slandered by coincidence and xcom happened to interrogate him at the same time. Unlikely with so many player. But there were already a lot of coincidences (like stealing from the same person in 2 rounds!) So in that case it's also possible that both are towns, and we wouldn't have any clue on a BO :/

Still, more likely tat xpon is BO. So I'll vote for him too. If nothing else will come to light.

Gasp!

Sleep time then

*uses Akonyl as a pillow*

Drunk people tend to not be the best pillows.

D:
You shouldn't drink so much gin, Gin!

I'd be interested in hearin what xcom has to say about this also, as if we don't know for sure if it was planned or not, but basically unless we're very confident about our ability to cause a tie vote, we'll have to lynch someone anyway and at this point it may as well be xpon.

Also, you can't shtop me!

Akonyl (Yamamura)

I am insulted.

Also, Kleene, about your dream, did it have any hints about whether he was korn/chianti or did it just say he sniped someone? Because if it just said that he sniped someone, then that's weird because it doesn't narrow it down to a specific role.

[James Rye]

I guess lynching xpon is the best choice.

Yeah. Lucky that we found one on Day 1!

That is if xpon´s really BO and just didn´t had the bad luck to be slandered. XD
But that´s unlikely like the rest of you already wrote.^^