Mafia--Round 8 (BO WINS)

[Commi-Ninja]

Ah, I did not make it up.  Clearly I need to refresh myself on some of the rules.  

So... something in there is true.

Agh.  Sorry.  It's been a while since I actually paid any attention to the rules page.  Mostly I was going from memory. (Which is clearly a bad idea, in my case.)

[pofa]

@Kain:

Matsuda, sort of ghost

-Matsuda is an NPC, controlled by the GM. Every night, 1 person will be given a dream containing 4 false facts and 1 true fact.

[KainTheVampire]

oh... i see

[Detective Tommy]

Commi-ninja, can you repost your dream?
I must've missed it, cause I didn't even know someone already had a dream..

[Kleene Onigiri]

i don't get this thing with dreams... what are you talking about? D:

During the night, 1 person gets a dream (he will get the pm after the night ended tho).
This dream has 5 people + roles in it. And just 1 person+role is true.

last round example:
You dreamed the following:
xGinx(Satou),pofa(Shinichi),Akonyl(Sonoko),paix672(Calvados) and Beastly(Gin) were having a nicely dinner together. etc.

[nomemory]

Ah, I did not make it up.  Clearly I need to refresh myself on some of the rules.  

So... something in there is true.

Agh.  Sorry.  It's been a while since I actually paid any attention to the rules page.  Mostly I was going from memory. (Which is clearly a bad idea, in my case.)

Trying to steal my role are you?[spoiler]There is only one true nomemory! Mohahahahahahahahahahahahahaaa[/spoiler]

Good night, I've sent my vote to pofa and now I'm going to bed

[Commi-Ninja]

Here's the summary:

Conia - Anokata; nomemory - Ran; Holmes - Pisco; Ctu - Yumi; Paix672 - Hakuba.

Evidently two of those are incorrect.  That leaves one true among two false.

Conia, Holmes, and Ctu are the possibilities in that case.  (Not for being B.O., but for being the true fact, I mean.)

And, sorry, nomemory, I wasn't trying to steal your role.

[xGinx]

I asked them for a prove but they didn't give me any. And, they could be a BO covering up for him.
I'm not really sure about the whole situation... But I'm inclined to trust xpon.

So far It looks like Xpon, Detective Tommy and Paix has some kind of agreement, otherwise I don't understand why would they (Paix and Detective Tommy) trust so blindly without a prove or anything like that, It suggest than one is Sonoko or her BF and the other might be just a random role (considering Xpon like Sonoko or her BF) but like Schillok (someone I have proves to trust) got a PM from Xpon telling that he isn't Sonoko then I think that Xpon might be lying and Detective Tommy and Paix are Sonoko and her BF, wich means that the best option is still voting Xpon. Mmmmm, this is a hard decision xD

Any DB has some clue? What you say Kain, as a DB you should have investigated someone, tell me by the end of the phase what the answer you got from Pofa is plz (By PM if you don't want to post it here so you don't get killed), We all need info to know who we can trust in and find who all the BOs are.

[Schillok]

commie-ninja was the one with the dream...
But since there are 2 possible BO - and commie himself who might be BO, thus faking the entire dream - chances that one of them (Conia or Holmes) is really a BO is about the same as for any other player.

(5 people in the dream = 20% chance of right prediction; About 34% of any player being BO; About 34% of commie being BO).

So if commie is town then chances for either Conia or Holmes to be BO are:

20% + 80% *33% = 46%
(chance of dream being right + chance of dream being wrong but that player being BO anyway)


But if we consider the 33% chance that commie is BO then we end up with:

67%*46% + 33%*0 = 31%
(chance of commie being town AND the chance of discovering a BO by his dream + chance of him being BO and discovering a BO anyway)

Which is even below the chance for random lynching (33%). I say we need more information on that dream first during night 2. Chances improve greatly if we can prove commies allegiance and find the false results in the dream.

Okay, we should all agree to not lynch xpon.
I have a question, will we know who tried to lynch who? Will the GM  post it?

So let's start discussing...

I still suggest killing xpon. Either he is Sonoko - then he will probably die by APTX today anyway - or he is BO and we will have made one big step ahead.
Also, Sonoko could only prove here role by being investigated by the Detective Boys and noone else. If they are in the game.

Actually, if he is BO than chances are big you are BO as well. So it is almost a double win.

As I see it the chances outweighs the risks... and to be honest, I don't know another suspicious player anyway.
So I suggest we will keep voting for xpon.

[Detective Tommy]

I asked them for a prove but they didn't give me any. And, they could be a BO covering up for him.
I'm not really sure about the whole situation... But I'm inclined to trust xpon.

So far It looks like Xpon, Detective Tommy and Paix has some kind of agreement, otherwise I don't understand why would they (Paix and Detective Tommy) trust so blindly without a prove or anything like that, It suggest than one is Sonoko or her BF and the other might be just a random role (considering Xpon like Sonoko or her BF) but like Schillok (someone I have proves to trust) got a PM from Xpon telling that he isn't Sonoko then I think that Xpon might be lying and Detective Tommy and Paix are Sonoko and her BF, wich means that the best option is still voting Xpon. Mmmmm, this is a hard decision xD

Any DB has some clue? What you say Kain, as a DB you should have investigated someone, tell me by the end of the phase what the answer you got from Pofa is plz (By PM if you don't want to post it here so you don't get killed), We all need info to know who we can trust in and find who all the BOs are.

Well, how can we trust you? Theres a huge problem with the fear that you might talk to a BO...

[KainTheVampire]

that's why i'm thinking if i should tell anyone... i don't know who to trust.. or which people who trusts me o.O D:

[Detective Tommy]

I still suggest killing xpon. Either he is Sonoko - then he will probably die by APTX today anyway - or he is BO and we will have made one big step ahead.
Also, Sonoko could only prove here role by being investigated by the Detective Boys and noone else. If they are in the game.

Actually, if he is BO than chances are big you are BO as well. So it is almost a double win.

As I see it the chances outweighs the risks... and to be honest, I don't know another suspicious player anyway.
So I suggest we will keep voting for xpon.

If we lie, then it'll be obvious we are  BO. Thus killing two BO at once. Personally, I would not have played like I did as a BO member.
I think you should prevent lynching xpon for the time being.

-edit-
There have been a few players who hasn't said anything at all... We don't have any idea whos detective, BO or etc...

[Kleene Onigiri]

Schillok wanting to kill xpon badly is making him suspicious too.... since there are clues on other people too now. But I'm too confuzzeled to tell who is BO and who is not with all that talk anyway XD I'll ask random.org

edit: random.org said number 7... and that's schillok if you look at the 1. page! what a twist!

[KainTheVampire]

Detective Tommy who's trying to defend xpon so much is also suspicious.... >.<

[xGinx]

Here's the summary:

Conia - Anokata; nomemory - Ran; Holmes - Pisco; Ctu - Yumi; Paix672 - Hakuba.

Evidently two of those are incorrect.  That leaves one true among two false.

Conia, Holmes, and Ctu are the possibilities in that case.  (Not for being B.O., but for being the true fact, I mean.)

And, sorry, nomemory, I wasn't trying to steal your role.

Mmmm, being Satou doesn't sounds that bad eh xD I have great legs and great skills LOL

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I asked them for a prove but they didn't give me any. And, they could be a BO covering up for him.
I'm not really sure about the whole situation... But I'm inclined to trust xpon.

So far It looks like Xpon, Detective Tommy and Paix has some kind of agreement, otherwise I don't understand why would they (Paix and Detective Tommy) trust so blindly without a prove or anything like that, It suggest than one is Sonoko or her BF and the other might be just a random role (considering Xpon like Sonoko or her BF) but like Schillok (someone I have proves to trust) got a PM from Xpon telling that he isn't Sonoko then I think that Xpon might be lying and Detective Tommy and Paix are Sonoko and her BF, wich means that the best option is still voting Xpon. Mmmmm, this is a hard decision xD

Any DB has some clue? What you say Kain, as a DB you should have investigated someone, tell me by the end of the phase what the answer you got from Pofa is plz (By PM if you don't want to post it here so you don't get killed), We all need info to know who we can trust in and find who all the BOs are.

Well, how can we trust you? Theres a huge problem with the fear that you might talk to a BO...

What are you talking about Willy?? xD

I didn't get the Fear part but still, I'm not asking you to trust me, I'm just saying that sounds weird to get an alliance in the first Night/Day when we all have almost no info, specially when we don't know who we can trust in and there's only one suspect.

Then, an unknown person came out of nowhere and said that he supports Xpon being Sonoko (When Xpon said to Schillok that he wasn't Sonoko) and we should trust him?? I don't know you but sound pretty weird to me.

If there's anyone who has a lead, Info we can use or something that might be helpful to point someone for the Vote then tell us.