Mafia! Mafia! Mafia! Character Role Discussions

[Akonyl]

- Camel/Jodie's too weak (that's the popular belief, I think so too; they should be protectors who can protect themselves as they know self-def and such; however they will not get to know the attacker's identity, just that their targets were attacked)

so instead of info gatherers, they become info gathering protectors who can do more than actual protectors can? :V

(this exact reasoning could be made to allow ran/makoto to protect themselves, but that makes them a bit too powerful)

I disagree with APTXing jailbirds also, as you can get rid of them with bribe if they're really that big of a problem. That is, unless you decided to randomly waste bribe on someone you'd already injured, or something.

[pofa]

Honestly, it's hard enough to get a damn night kill at this point without throwing two more protectors into the pool. -.-

But the stakeout SI idea doesn't sound bad.

[miikosan]

SHH Akonyl, that was a strategic mistake... erm what?

Honestly, I think these roles should be buffed and make stronger:

- Jodie/Camel: too weak an ability, not very useful unless in an alliance
- Kazuha: again, her charms are 1 use only, her accompany isn't that very useful late-game
- Pisco: useless unless erase is needed

And these roles should be nerfed a lil:

- Satou: detention is way to strong
- Akai: I5 + protect + vengeance kill?

That's my thoughts...

[Akonyl]

satou: Maybe, people have a problem with detention so I can see it
Akai: Is fine, the protect is really not that useful and the vengenace kill has hardly ever been a factor (at least as a pro for him)

jodie/camel: If they are too underpowered, the investigation change with stake out is fair, but really I don't think they're bad (just because a role is more useful with an alliance doesn't mean it's bad, observe is a good tool for finding alliances anyway)
kazuha: Kazuha can be pretty good, see the previous round where she saved xpon and took 3 APTXes to kill :V
pisco: Could perhaps be changed, maybe remove the limit to erase evidence so that he can erase all types of crimes more than once

[Abs.]

Nerf the town! Nerf the town!

[miikosan]

make it so that when satou is detaining someone she can't use her investigates.
or maybe change its mechanic so that it happens at the end of a phase (so the target's actions go through)

[Mystery_angel801]

- Akai: I5 + protect + vengeance kill?

Bone Breaking only does something if a sniper kill they stopped a sniper from killing someone. It doesn't do anything if it's normal kill. And since i gotten Chanti so many times, i'm more afraid of killing Sonoko's BF or being Deducted then thinking of Akai bone breaking me.

And Vengenance is ok.

Akai i think is not too powerful.

[Commi-Ninja]

Akonyl:  Lovers?  I'd forgotten.  I think I was mixing that up with when I was Sonoko and Abs. was my BFF James.  I get so confused sometimes.

[xpon]

i say satou detain is threat last... how about that?

[Dus]

So, someone who's detained can still be killed or lynched or stolen from or investigated and can do his normal actions, is that what you're saying?
So you basically take them out for the 2 phases that follow?

[xpon]

yes
just 2 phase

and if it day.. then it can be lynched / aptxed

[Dus]

Interesting idea. And it might be useful for yourself to know that you have been detained and not arrested.
It's also less of a hinderance to the BO, as it doesn't stop them from killing.

[xpon]

and it solve the problem for her investigatios..

i mean.. the rules state that she cant investigate the same phase she detain someone

[Kleene Onigiri]

@miiko: Don't want to sound rude D:
But if you can't even read 5 pages (since there weren't so many ideas posted since akos round), do you have enough time to GM a round? :p
You need more time as a GM than a normal player.

[miikosan]

@Kleene: don't worry about it.
It's just that I did not know where the discussions that started AFTER Ako's round began, so I'm kinda lost because I have to go back and look and well, people talking about the new role of Toichi (which I think is an awesome idea btw) kinda make me feel lost and confused