Mafia! Mafia! Mafia! Character Role Discussions

[Conia]

This Pisco:

Pisco, Mafia Eraser

    * Can kill at night if ordered by Anakota, but only if no other alive BO member were assigned to kill someone less often.
    * Once per game the Eraser can remove the body of the victim of the nightly killing. The town and the BO will only learn what player died, but not his/her role. If the victim didn't die during that night or if the action was hindered it can be used again.

[xpon]

DB is starting late you know.. and there is danger for them if they do my mistake and get contact with Bo... so i believe their current ability is ok.

[Beastly]

DB is starting late you know.. and there is danger for them if they do my mistake and get contact with Bo... so i believe their current ability is ok.

BO have a bigger danger for DB.....

Gin can only slander one person.
Borubon can investigate but still gotta wait for night to kill
Anokata is useless, except he don't have scent.

[xpon]

DB is starting late you know.. and there is danger for them if they do my mistake and get contact with Bo... so i believe their current ability is ok.

BO have a bigger danger for DB.....

Gin can only slander one person.
Borubon can investigate but still gotta wait for night to kill
Anokata is useless, except he don't have scent.

i think 11 vs 4 is not fair..

but if we get 8 vs 6 .. its a menie..


the only thnig that solving this unbalanced is having a third party. ( the lovers or the serial killer)

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

This Pisco:

Pisco, Mafia Eraser

   * Can kill at night if ordered by Anakota, but only if no other alive BO member were assigned to kill someone less often.
   * Once per game the Eraser can remove the body of the victim of the nightly killing. The town and the BO will only learn what player died, but not his/her role. If the victim didn't die during that night or if the action was hindered it can be used again.

You should probably stipulate the Mafia or the Eraser at least gets to know the real identity in a PM. Otherwise, the ability might hurt more than help the Mafia. I still like tamperer version 1 more though....

Later edit: The mafia have lost the last two games by a margin. If they don't get an extra player, then their abilities should be a little stronger to compensate.

[Beastly]

DB is starting late you know.. and there is danger for them if they do my mistake and get contact with Bo... so i believe their current ability is ok.

BO have a bigger danger for DB.....

Gin can only slander one person.
Borubon can investigate but still gotta wait for night to kill
Anokata is useless, except he don't have scent.

If alot offers alliance to B.O. that's still a big disadvantage. You can't just say your role since there are both DB and Okiya you gotta be afraid of.

[xpon]

This Pisco:

Pisco, Mafia Eraser

    * Can kill at night if ordered by Anakota, but only if no other alive BO member were assigned to kill someone less often.
    * Once per game the Eraser can remove the body of the victim of the nightly killing. The town and the BO will only learn what player died, but not his/her role. If the victim didn't die during that night or if the action was hindered it can be used again.

You should probably stipulate the Mafia or the Eraser at least gets to know the real identity in a PM. Otherwise, the ability might hurt more than help the Mafia. I still like tamperer version 1 more though....

Later edit: The mafia have lost the last two games by a margin. If they don't get an extra player, then their abilities should be a little stronger to compensate.

i think the more player that join the game... it make more dis advantages to BO......

[Kleene Onigiri]

According to Sakina (this round anyways), people cannot disguise as BO members. When I read the rules, I thought that slandering works against investigations too (X committed Y to Z), but maybe not...

That's correct.  They can't.  It'd be too complicated otherwise.  No, slandering only works against detectives. 

Slandering could still be changed, so that Gin can slander investigations too. But that wouldn't change much and wouldn't be too powerful.
Example:
A detective investigates: "Conia killed Ctu". Ctu died, but it wasn't conia. So if Gin slandered Conia, the detective get's a true. But if the detective made something like:
"Conia killed Ctu", "Conia killed Akonyl" "Conia killed Beastly", he'll get all conia killings as true. So he'll know that there was a slandering. And if conia actually killed Ctu, then he'll get "conia killed ctu" as false, but "conia killed akonyl" and "Conia killed Beastly" as true. And will still know that they got slandered.
If Gin slandered Ctu instead, then "Conia killed Ctu" will be false, when he was killed by Conia. And get's a true when Conia didn't kill him. Same as before, the detective knows if they got slandered when he investigated: "Conia killed Ctu" "Beastly killed Ctu" "Akonyl killed Ctu"
If the detective get's slandered, then all investigations containing him will be manipulated. But it shouldn't manipulate all his investigations (like "Beastly killed Callid")
Only risk in that is, that Gin knows who'll die and who'll kill the victim. So he can always slander those people. But it wouldn't be too powerful imo.

If Gin can't slander investigations, then I'd like to suggest another ability. Since KID has Investigation 3 now, Vermouth should get a little something too. She could get the ability to "steal reports".
So if she uses that on a FBI agent, half of the reports of the Investigation will be lost. So out of 5 investigations, he'll get just 3 (so 2 reports went missing)
That shouldn't be too powerful, since Vermouth doesn't know who can investigate and who can't. If she happens to get to know who's an investigator, she can't just "steal his reports" all the time. Because this will make the investigator suspicious against vermouth or the one who knows his identity. Because they most likely know his identity through PMing.

Btw. will slandering work against the new DB? Like, "Akonyl is Sonoko" will get the reverse result?

[Conia]

This Pisco:

Pisco, Mafia Eraser

   * Can kill at night if ordered by Anakota, but only if no other alive BO member were assigned to kill someone less often.
   * Once per game the Eraser can remove the body of the victim of the nightly killing. The town and the BO will only learn what player died, but not his/her role. If the victim didn't die during that night or if the action was hindered it can be used again.

You should probably stipulate the Mafia or the Eraser at least gets to know the real identity in a PM. Otherwise, the ability might hurt more than help the Mafia. I still like tamperer version 1 more though....

Later edit: The mafia have lost the last two games by a margin. If they don't get an extra player, then their abilities should be a little stronger to compensate.

As you say, once Pisco uses his ability, he will be PM'd the identity of the body. So, BO members, be sure to ask him after he finishes his job
I'm planning to give every BO member a special ability to make the town vs BO more balanced

[Beastly]

Pls no Kir.

[Schillok]

This Pisco:

Pisco, Mafia Eraser

   * Can kill at night if ordered by Anakota, but only if no other alive BO member were assigned to kill someone less often.
   * Once per game the Eraser can remove the body of the victim of the nightly killing. The town and the BO will only learn what player died, but not his/her role. If the victim didn't die during that night or if the action was hindered it can be used again.

You should probably stipulate the Mafia or the Eraser at least gets to know the real identity in a PM. Otherwise, the ability might hurt more than help the Mafia. I still like tamperer version 1 more though....

Later edit: The mafia have lost the last two games by a margin. If they don't get an extra player, then their abilities should be a little stronger to compensate.

As you say, once Pisco uses his ability, he will be PM'd the identity of the body. So, BO members, be sure to ask him after he finishes his job
I'm planning to give every BO member a special ability to make the town vs BO more balanced

I am against that idea to tell the BO the identity of their victim but not the rest of the town. The way it is suggested Pisco would use his ability in turn 1 (1st BO killing) all the time to get a character name he (or one of his allies) could claim to be during the game. There would be no reason for him to use it later that way, would there?
That would make him very similar to the Mafia Abductor (Irish) I suggested who gets the name of town character not in the game during that night. Maybe we could improve him a bit... maybe by hiding the identities of all victims he kills himself. That way the BO gets another character which is a bit better in killing (like the snipers), but a bit worse in hiding his identity.
On the other hand this does not really sound like Pisco, does it? Isn't there another BO agent that is knows to remove the traces of his/her victims?
(Maybe we can have Gin gain that ability and assign someone else to be the slanderer?)

[Akonyl]

I'm planning to give every BO member a special ability to make the town vs BO more balanced

Tequila
-During the night, Tequila chooses one person.
-This person gets completely smashed by the end of the night. Due to an extreme hangover, the person is unable to participate in voting to lynch the next day.

[Tanner-kun]

I'm planning to give every BO member a special ability to make the town vs BO more balanced

Tequila
-During the night, Tequila chooses one person.
-This person gets completely smashed by the end of the night. Due to an extreme hangover, the person is unable to participate in voting to lynch the next day.

But then whoever is drunk will appear innocent.

[Conia]

I'm planning to give every BO member a special ability to make the town vs BO more balanced

Tequila
-During the night, Tequila chooses one person.
-This person gets completely smashed by the end of the night. Due to an extreme hangover, the person is unable to participate in voting to lynch the next day.

But then whoever is drunk will appear innocent.

No. It will appear as if that person did not voted that Day. I like the idea.

[xpon]

I'm planning to give every BO member a special ability to make the town vs BO more balanced

Tequila
-During the night, Tequila chooses one person.
-This person gets completely smashed by the end of the night. Due to an extreme hangover, the person is unable to participate in voting to lynch the next day.

But then whoever is drunk will appear innocent.

No. It will appear as if that person did not voted that Day. I like the idea.

but will the town know that this guy is not vooting because the smashed ....

ex.

i vote for pofa and then at the end of day, you post the voting result.. and my name will empty right (xpon -> ) but i know that i've vote.... and maybe my partner know too.. .. so we know there is "Tequila" on that mafia round