Investigator's role was not a bad role. If it was paired to a detective,investigator,trickster.
You think so? I was only ever to do stuff as Kid last round because I was also disguised as Agasa. I found out nothing from investigating. o.o
Investigator role is hard on his own and it's even harder without any suspicion or good assumptions.
But the Investigator can easily proof the role of someone, if someone tells him that he will do something that night (Player A heals Player B) for example :x
Since bluekaitou wants sakina dead, maybe sakina should defend herself (seriously :p)
Anyway, I'd still vote for Callid >D
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NIGHT 1
Shortly said, ranger (Agasa) was killed the first night.
DAY 1
After that, Holmes claimed that he was Ai and said that he had followed me and I'd be one of the leading BOs.
I denied and said I was Takagi. I could convince some people, and that was enough to get a majority, and Holmes was lynched. He was indeed Ai.
NIGHT 2
The following night, Beastly (Satou) died by Marshmallows.
DAY 2
This day, everyone wants to lynch me. I really can't imagine why...
- Beastly wanted to be lynched, some theories were discussed as to why he would want that
Day 1:
- ranger (agasa) died
- Holmes wants Callid to be lynched, because Holmes is Sherry and he got a mayor BO scent
Spoiler:
Holmes wrote:People, lynch Callid. I´m Sherry and nobody can trick me or slander. I accompanied him the previous night and his smell is one of the leading B.O members.
- Callid tries to fend off the accusation. He says he's Takagi but he can't proof it to anyone, besides Araide or something
Spoiler:
Hmm, seems like I have to explain myself after such heavy incriminations. Luckily my role isn't that important, so the BO will not be able to kill of an important person easily.
I'm Takagi.
Because I thought anyone would expect Xcommando to get killed the first night (I didn't believe that would actually happen, as the BO isn't as stupid to kill someone who is so likely to be shielded), I investigated if anyone healed him. I found out that he was indeed healed, but I don't think that I can announce who did so, because if Araide got killed we would be in a worse position than when I got lynched (although this situation is not a favourable one either). Now at least one of you knows that I'm speaking the truth.
Of course I can't give you any (other) proofs that I'm indeed Takagi and not in the BO, since the game hasn't progressed very far and I do not have any other information. However, at least we know now (and if you don't believe me, you'll know after my death - let's hope that there aren't four BOs (after my death and an additional one in the night, there'd be as many BO as townsfolk and we'd lose)) that Holmes is in the BO.
Logically, I'll lynch him.
- trust me, no trust me yaddayadda
- Sakina wants to lynch Homles (Sherry)
Spoiler:
Since it should be obvious by now that I trust nobody who reveals their role out loud, especially if it's a good role, I point my finger at Holmes. How convenient that, unlike Agasa, you can't prove that you're Sherry. It's more than likely that you're actually Vermouth disguised as Sherry and trying to prove your innocence by flaunting your role.
addition from Akonyl:
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Agasa and Sherry are on the same level of "provability", as well as the Trickster.
1) Agasa can tell someone beforehand that he's going to give them an item, and they get the item as promised and so it's known he's Agasa.
2) The trickster can tell someone beforehand that he's going to trick them, and they get their night action (if they have one) tricked, so they know he's Eisuke.
3) Sherry can tell someone beforehand that she's going to accompany them, and they will receive a notification that Sherry accompanied them, so they know she's Sherry.
Of course, all of these can be falsely validated by accident (fake agasa says he'll give an item to someone, and at the same time the real agasa happens to give the items to the same person), however if you are claiming Agasa to be a provable role, then so is Sherry. You could almost say Sherry's twice as provable, because she gets a day action and a night action.
As far as trust goes regarding the previous game, the only reason conia trusted me was he was Sonoko and he was told my role by the GM, and you didn't trust me until the last night Tongue
- Abs making some deductions
- Quote from Abs:
Spoiler:
Quote from: Ctu on 31-03-2010, 18:05:50
Quote from: Holmes on 31-03-2010, 17:21:47
Let´s see who has more lynching votes, Callid or me ...
Well I know who I wish it to be and why, but won't say who since I want to live
Ctu is either Araide, B.O., or a lover/best friend! But my money is on the bolded options.
P.S. If he is Araide please don't kill him B.O. people. Kiss
- answer from Ctu:
Spoiler:
I am not part of the ORG...now should I pull a ranger and state who I am?
lol
but I am hopping the right one gets lynched to help me prove something I suspect So I guess I am pulling an "L"
- another quote from Abs:
Spoiler:
Maybe we should give up on the Callid/Holmes thing and just lynch mangaluva or bluekaitou1412.
They've both been suspiciously (relatively) quiet...
but bluekaitou and mangaluva said, they came too late to vote etc. (Inet died etc)
As the town awakes, they hear an unusual amount of uproar. It seems that someone has died, and the police are more upset about it than usual. The deceased was Beastly, who turned out to be Satou, the policewoman. Not only that, but her body was found... covered in marshmallows? The town isn't quite sure why, but they're clearly angry:
“Wow, Miwako? They killed Miwako? Those bastards!â€
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after some convincing by Callid, and the fact that I forgot there wasn't actually a megure due to some silly memory lapse, I'm just gonna end the game (Even if you could win by now, I sincerely doubt you will considering you want to lynch different BO members).
The Lynching
The town continues bickering about who to kill for the death of Satou, until Callid orders silence. "I really don't see why we're even bothering with these formalities anymore," he says, "after all, you're all going to die anyway."
The town looks confused for a second, but it soon becomes clear as Sakina, Mangaluva and Xcommando gather around Callid. "It's tied, there's no way you can win this..."
This is followed by a not-so-amazing fight that isn't even worth describing, and thus the story ends, and the BO kills everyone in the town. Except Ctu, who flies out of Japan a broken man, who is so depressed by seeing Xcommando in the mafia that he soon hangs himself anyway.
(PS Beastly I have no clue what you mean by liking the Investigator role, you never even used it.)
So, alright, first off I'm gonna say that this game wasn't particularly fair (seems like I get all the unbalanced games eh? :V). For that, you can blame either Sonoko or Conia (I told him I'd blame him because I asked him what I should do about it ). So obviously, something needs to be done about Sonoko with games this size. The previous game showed that 3 mafia for 11 townies is a good ratio, but if Sonoko manages to choose a mafia member as a friend, it tips the scales too much in the mafia's favor. So, next game I'm thinking if Sonoko friends a BO member, one of the other BO members will be turned into a townie in order to keep the BO:Townie balance. The lovers are fine though as their pairing doesn't actually tip anything in the BO's favor. Or maybe we could just have 2 BO instead of 3 for 11 people, and keep the same rulings on Sonoko.
Also, although it wasn't much of a deal in this game because he was lynched right away, I realized that something needs to be done about Sherry. Effectively, as she is now, she's like the round 1 trickster on steroids because:
1) if she gets a "not BO" scent, she 100% knows that the person is not in the BO and can thus form alliances quickly, especially because the person knows she accompanied him (basically her version of the "you didn't succeed in doing anything" message)
2) she gets twice as many opportunities to do this.
3) although she gets a "BO" scent from akai and kir, they are only a small portion of the town so it's unlikely that even if kir was still in the game, it doesn't matter much if she doesn't trust them.
And here's all the game data, actions and dreams and stuff in txt format!
Spoiler:
2 Ctu TWN ND Makoto
3 Xcommando TWN K Sonoko-L-Jackson
4 Abs TWN N 1412(Akai)
5 Sakina MAF K Korn
6 bluekaitou1412 TWN N Shinichi
8 mangaluva MAF N Vermouth(Araide)
10 Callid MAF N Gin
11 Kleene Onigiri FBI N Jodie
DEADS
7 ranger TWN Agasa
1 Holmes TWN ND Sherry
9 Beastly POL N Satou
- - -
PREP PHASE
Xcommando (Sonoko) friends Callid!
Abs (1412) disguises as ranger (Akai)
Mangaluva disguises as bluekaitou1412 (Araide)
ranger is reassigned Agasa
bluekaitou1412 is reassigned Shinichi
- - -
NIGHT 1
As darkness descends on the city of Beika, the citizens go to sleep and the streets become peacefully quiet. However, concealed in this peaceful darkness, a group of people dressed in black approach the town. Aiming to fulfill a contract, they set their sights on their dark deeds. The silence is so thick it could be cut with a knife...
TRUE DREAM
D1: To Ctu (Makoto)
Sakina is Korn
Callid is Gin
Abs is Kid-Akai
Kleene is Jodie
You dream that you are standing guard in Kleene Onigiri's bedroom, facing her bedroom door. She feels that the Black Organization is after her life, because of her investigating of Vermouth- the woman who killed her mother, and has since asked you to protect her. However, as you are standing guard, you hear the sound of shattering glass, and turn around to see the window shattered, and see that Kleene has been sniped through the window. As you jump out the window in pursuit, you can see the silhouette of Sakina packing up a sniper rifle and running off. As you pursue her, you come across Abs, wearing a black stocking cap, who is making no effort to catch Sakina. You yell at him, asking why he didn't catch her, him being the original silver bullet and all.
He replies “Ah, sorry, you must be mistaken, I'm not actually who you think I am...â€
I'd sign up for the next game, but i'm currently living in fear of not having any power on a regular basis, let alone internet connection. I'll sit the next one out.
Oh, another role that I think might need tweaking is Investigators:
even with Investigator 5, neither Abs or Kleene got anything right either night. I think having to get the two players right, and the first player's role right (in order to get the action right) is a bit too much. Imo, characters should have the # of investigations reduced, and instead only have to investigate things like "Sakina killed", "mangaluva healed", "ctu protected", etc, without having to guess the second person.
First of all, why was Ctu in my bedroom!? Pervert! xD /jk
Well, I was in almost every dream, either killed or almost killed, and didn't get a single pm QQ (without pming first lol)
Seems my suspicion on Xcommando and Sakina was true xD
Akonyl wrote:
Oh, another role that I think might need tweaking is Investigators:
even with Investigator 5, neither Abs or Kleene got anything right either night. I think having to get the two players right, and the first player's role right (in order to get the action right) is a bit too much. Imo, characters should have the # of investigations reduced, and instead only have to investigate things like "Sakina killed", "mangaluva healed", "ctu protected", etc, without having to guess the second person.
That would be good. Since there are too many possibilities, especially at the beginning when you don't have any clues at all.
This would be similar to Bourbons Investigation then?
about Sonokos role:
She could be like the Lovers then. Still best friends, but if they are from BO and Town, then they have to kill everyone else.
The difference would be, that the Sonoko person could choose his friend himself (since the lovers are being chosen by someone else). Sonoko can chose 3+ people and the GM can then randomly pick one of them.
about BO role:
I'd thought about a role for Vodka(+Pisco/tequila)
He could act as a Scapegoat. So if the mafia knows that for example Gin will be most likely lynched next time, then he can protect Gin as a scapegoat. That voted person (Player a) will still be lynched, but he won't be revealed as Gin, but as Vodka. So the previous vodka player will now be Gin and has his abilities.
But not to make this ability too overpowered, he can just do that 1 (or maybe 2 times) in one game.
EDIT: I want to play in the next game too
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