Mafia Mafia Mafia! (New Thread Exists)

[Conia]

Let's ditch all reasoning and clues then and lynch XCommando to make it a tradition

Well, as funny as it would be...
We do know the identity of a BO member - shouldn't we lynch him first?
After all, Xcommando can't run away - or wait, if he is a foreigner, he can. But if he is, he's out of the Japan at the moment anyway. 

"We" do not know it for sure. Since at least one of you is lying, and there is no solid proof to know which one.

I'm not lying! BO will win XD

[Abs.]

Claims:
A) Holmes: Holmes is Sherry, and Callid is one of the leading B.O. members (Gin, Vermouth, Anakota, or Bourbon)
B) Callid: Callid is Takagi.

Options:
A) Holmes is lying, and Callid is telling the truth.  <- Therefore Holmes is B.O.
B) Callid is lying, and Holmes is telling the truth. <- Therefore Callid is B.O.
C) Holmes is telling the truth about himself, except Holmes is Vermouth disguised as Sherry, and therefore lying about Callid. <- Therefore Holmes is B.O.
D) Callid is telling the truth, except is Vermouth disguised as Takagi. <- Therefore Callid is B.O.
E) Holmes is Sonoko, whose best friend is Sherry (can lovers also claim to be the other lover's role? I suppose so) - therefore Holmes is lying about himself, but should nonetheless be telling the truth about Callid. <- Therefore Callid is B.O.

We can take as fact that:
A) Callid and Holmes are not the lovers nor the best friends of each other.
B) Holmes is possibly in Japan.  (If B.O., yes.  If local townsperson, yes.  If foreign townsperson, no reason to lie about Callid, and no reason to accuse Callid without proof - unless proof was obtained from lover/best friend who is in Japan.) <- Lynch may or may not result in Holmes' death.
C) Callid is in Japan (otherwise BOTH Holmes AND Callid are lying.) <- Lynch will result in Callid's death.
D) Araide (if exists) is a third party who knows whether Callid is lying or not.
E) The B.O. knows who's lying. ( )
F) If Callid is lynched and found innocent, Holmes is B.O.
G) If Holmes is lynched and found innocent, Callid is B.O.

Let me know if anyone finds anything wrong with this post.

I'm still not sure who to vote for myself.  

[Holmes]

Trust me, as you trusted Akonyl in the last game, if I´m wrong, I´ll just kill myself.

[Abs.]

Trust me, as you trusted Akonyl in the last game, if I´m wrong, I´ll just kill myself.

Wait.  1) No one trusted Akonyl in the last game.  2) The B.O. are the only ones who can kill themselves! 

[Kleene Onigiri]

Claims:
A) Holmes: Holmes is Sherry, and Callid is one of the leading B.O. members (Gin, Vermouth, Anakota, or Bourbon)
B) Callid: Callid is Takagi.

Options:
A) Holmes is lying, and Callid is telling the truth.  <- Therefore Holmes is B.O.
B) Callid is lying, and Holmes is telling the truth. <- Therefore Callid is B.O.
C) Holmes is telling the truth about himself, except Holmes is Vermouth disguised as Sherry, and therefore lying about Callid. <- Therefore Holmes is B.O.
D) Callid is telling the truth, except is Vermouth disguised as Takagi. <- Therefore Callid is B.O.
E) Holmes is Sonoko, whose best friend is Sherry (can lovers also claim to be the other lover's role? I suppose so) - therefore Holmes is lying about himself, but should nonetheless be telling the truth about Callid. <- Therefore Callid is B.O.

We can take as fact that:
A) Callid and Holmes are not the lovers nor the best friends of each other.
B) Holmes is possibly in Japan.  (If B.O., yes.  If local townsperson, yes.  If foreign townsperson, no reason to lie about Callid, and no reason to accuse Callid without proof - unless proof was obtained from lover/best friend who is in Japan.) <- Lynch may or may not result in Holmes' death.
C) Callid is in Japan (otherwise BOTH Holmes AND Callid are lying.) <- Lynch will result in Callid's death.
D) Araide (if exists) is a third party who knows whether Callid is lying or not.
E) The B.O. knows who's lying. ( )
F) If Callid is lynched and found innocent, Holmes is B.O.
G) If Holmes is lynched and found innocent, Callid is B.O.

Let me know if anyone finds anything wrong with this post.

I'm still not sure who to vote for myself.  

Should be alright I think. Tho there are still other options too.

Btw. there is still beastly we could think about. (wanted to be lynched since the 1. night)

[Tanner-kun]

Wow so many post while I was at school well at least I know who I'm voting for and this time I'm playing it smarter by not telling who I vote tell after the day phase.

BTW does any know if beastly has been active recently I wanted to know what he has planned.

[Holmes]

1) We trusted Akonyl in the last game, at least conia and me, to get majority votes, ad about killing myself is just an expression. Dam XCommando, now we can´t joke like before.

[Tanner-kun]

lol XD

[Akonyl]

One thing, I would like to point out something Sakina is saying as a slight misconception of the rules:

Since it should be obvious by now that I trust nobody who reveals their role out loud, especially if it's a good role, I point my finger at Holmes.  How convenient that, unlike Agasa, you can't prove that you're Sherry.  It's more than likely that you're actually Vermouth disguised as Sherry and trying to prove your innocence by flaunting your role.  

Agasa and Sherry are on the same level of "provability", as well as the Trickster.
1) Agasa can tell someone beforehand that he's going to give them an item, and they get the item as promised and so it's known he's Agasa.
2) The trickster can tell someone beforehand that he's going to trick them, and they get their night action (if they have one) tricked, so they know he's Eisuke.
3) Sherry can tell someone beforehand that she's going to accompany them, and they will receive a notification that Sherry accompanied them, so they know she's Sherry.

Of course, all of these can be falsely validated by accident (fake agasa says he'll give an item to someone, and at the same time the real agasa happens to give the items to the same person), however if you are claiming Agasa to be a provable role, then so is Sherry. You could almost say Sherry's twice as provable, because she gets a day action and a night action.

As far as trust goes regarding the previous game, the only reason conia trusted me was he was Sonoko and he was told my role by the GM, and you didn't trust me until the last night

[Commi-Ninja]

As far as trust goes regarding the previous game, the only reason conia trusted me was he was Sonoko and he was told my role by the GM, and you didn't trust me until the last night

I didn't trust you at all. 

(And that couldn't possibly be because you were my enemy.... Nooo...  Heeheehee.)

[Kleene Onigiri]

One thing, I would like to point out something Sakina is saying as a slight misconception of the rules:

Since it should be obvious by now that I trust nobody who reveals their role out loud, especially if it's a good role, I point my finger at Holmes.  How convenient that, unlike Agasa, you can't prove that you're Sherry.  It's more than likely that you're actually Vermouth disguised as Sherry and trying to prove your innocence by flaunting your role.  

Agasa and Sherry are on the same level of "provability", as well as the Trickster.
1) Agasa can tell someone beforehand that he's going to give them an item, and they get the item as promised and so it's known he's Agasa.
2) The trickster can tell someone beforehand that he's going to trick them, and they get their night action (if they have one) tricked, so they know he's Eisuke.
3) Sherry can tell someone beforehand that she's going to accompany them, and they will receive a notification that Sherry accompanied them, so they know she's Sherry.

Of course, all of these can be falsely validated by accident (fake agasa says he'll give an item to someone, and at the same time the real agasa happens to give the items to the same person), however if you are claiming Agasa to be a provable role, then so is Sherry. You could almost say Sherry's twice as provable, because she gets a day action and a night action.

As far as trust goes regarding the previous game, the only reason conia trusted me was he was Sonoko and he was told my role by the GM, and you didn't trust me until the last night

Maybe Sakina did that on purpose and you just crushed her plan? ;p lol

[Akonyl]

One thing, I would like to point out something Sakina is saying as a slight misconception of the rules:

Since it should be obvious by now that I trust nobody who reveals their role out loud, especially if it's a good role, I point my finger at Holmes.  How convenient that, unlike Agasa, you can't prove that you're Sherry.  It's more than likely that you're actually Vermouth disguised as Sherry and trying to prove your innocence by flaunting your role.  

Agasa and Sherry are on the same level of "provability", as well as the Trickster.
1) Agasa can tell someone beforehand that he's going to give them an item, and they get the item as promised and so it's known he's Agasa.
2) The trickster can tell someone beforehand that he's going to trick them, and they get their night action (if they have one) tricked, so they know he's Eisuke.
3) Sherry can tell someone beforehand that she's going to accompany them, and they will receive a notification that Sherry accompanied them, so they know she's Sherry.

Of course, all of these can be falsely validated by accident (fake agasa says he'll give an item to someone, and at the same time the real agasa happens to give the items to the same person), however if you are claiming Agasa to be a provable role, then so is Sherry. You could almost say Sherry's twice as provable, because she gets a day action and a night action.

As far as trust goes regarding the previous game, the only reason conia trusted me was he was Sonoko and he was told my role by the GM, and you didn't trust me until the last night

Maybe Sakina did that on purpose and you just crushed her plan? ;p lol

if sakina was indeed trying to say that as some sort of plan, then I have indeed crushed it, but I'm banking on it being a misunderstanding (as Sherry's basically the only "information gathering" role which lets the person who information was gathered from know that they had info gathered from them).

If anyone tries to make a plan that requires confusing other peoples' perceptions of the rules of the game, I will smash that plan. Win a game of chess by making good plays, not by telling people you can only move a Queen one space

[Akonyl]

As far as trust goes regarding the previous game, the only reason conia trusted me was he was Sonoko and he was told my role by the GM, and you didn't trust me until the last night

I didn't trust you at all. 

(And that couldn't possibly be because you were my enemy.... Nooo...  Heeheehee.)

and that was actually a good move btw, had you not been so distrusting I would have suspected you quicker

[Commi-Ninja]

As far as trust goes regarding the previous game, the only reason conia trusted me was he was Sonoko and he was told my role by the GM, and you didn't trust me until the last night

I didn't trust you at all. 

(And that couldn't possibly be because you were my enemy.... Nooo...  Heeheehee.)

and that was actually a good move btw, had you not been so distrusting I would have suspected you quicker

Bluffing is my specialty.  (Usually.)

[Sakina]

Trust me, as you trusted Akonyl in the last game, if I´m wrong, I´ll just kill myself.

Wait.  1) No one trusted Akonyl in the last game.  2) The B.O. are the only ones who can kill themselves!   :o

Heeey!  I trusted Akonyl last game!  He's the one I stole my role from so since I was pretty sure that another BO role wouldn't be handed out.  Then I protected him with my watch. 

And no, there wasn't a plan to confuse people about the rules. 

Or was there?  :O