Mafia Round 19: Shake Up Christmas

[Detective Tommy]

But given that you'll be choosing who gets present from who (if you go with the secret Santa idea), it'll probably be random so there has to be some kind of hint as to who possibly could have sent it, otherwise it's a complete shot in the dark as far as guessing goes.

Forgot to mention this very important note.
Throughout the storyline posted each phase, and mini-story-line posted to the players for their actions, I will include hints on who sent the present.

Even how you receive the present might be a hint. Who knows.

[Vylash]

<- Hates the idea of hints in Mafia, in any capacity.

[Dus]

I'm with Parkur on that one.

[Detective Tommy]

I see. If the majority is against hints then I won't add them.

[Schillok]

Well, but I prefer the chance of the players influencing if they got a present (hint) to making it completely random.

Yeah, it was incorporated by the PO idea. But it was also used by Akonyl and Kleene in their game to a certain degree, by letting the result of a decision decide if you got a hint or not. Even if we could not know which decision was the correct one we had at least some influence (it was us who made the wrong choice - not some random generator we had no control of).

Though, like Parkur said: Hints in general are quite dangerous in mafia games. In extreme cases it will make the BO change their night target to kill a player they would have ignored otherwise that would have found 2 BOs out during that phase - greatly influencing the course of the game. And of course they might get a player killed despite that player behaving "correctly". (Like BO figuring a townie role for poison that would otherwise be safe. Or a BO suddenly becoming a lynching target because he was by chance identified as a BO by a hint).

[Akonyl]

my hints were pretty useless though, as they pointed out things both sides already knew at the point

But, hints are alright, but you have to use them with discretion. If it's a close game, you probably shouldn't include any hints.

[Detective Tommy]

Well, but I prefer the chance of the players influencing if they got a present (hint) to making it completely random.

Yeah, it was incorporated by the PO idea. But it was also used by Akonyl and Kleene in their game to a certain degree, by letting the result of a decision decide if you got a hint or not. Even if we could not know which decision was the correct one we had at least some influence (it was us who made the wrong choice - not some random generator we had no control of).

Though, like Parkur said: Hints in general are quite dangerous in mafia games. In extreme cases it will make the BO change their night target to kill a player they would have ignored otherwise that would have found 2 BOs out during that phase - greatly influencing the course of the game. And of course they might get a player killed despite that player behaving "correctly". (Like BO figuring a townie role for poison that would otherwise be safe. Or a BO suddenly becoming a lynching target because he was by chance identified as a BO by a hint).

I see. So you would rather if I have it random, or none at all?
If so, I'm thinking none at all.

But I can include the secret Santa thing just for fun. With no rewards.

[Kleene Onigiri]

I don't think 3 people out of ~25 mafia players is the majority :x Tho you should try to listen to all and make a compromise.
But you're also the GM. So, if you have a idea. go for it. It can turn out horrible at the end or it could end up great. But no one will murder you for that (maybe Jd- deletes you, but that's a different story XD)
So generally, if there aren't all people protesting against something, do what you wanna do

I think the mayor problem people see with hints is, that it's random. Thus some people got hints more often than others (tho that's what random means too).

So I have an idea, since schilloks PO were mentioned and akos and my hint system.
I let the people decide what they would do. This affected, if they got a true hint or a false hint.

You want to give out gifts. To make it more equal, you could do it that way, that in one phase, everyone get's a gift (not giving some gifts after a time). This way, everyone has a "starting-hint" (which shouldn't give someone a disadvantage, since everyone would get one then).
But instead that the receiver can decide on the hint, the gift giver can decide this time.

So, if I'm Gin, I can choose from 3 different gifts, like: trench coat, cellphone, shampoo (or whatever you planed on XD)
All these 3 items should have a connection to my role (tho maybe the shampoo is too obvious in my example :x)
Anyway, this way, the player can decide on, what hint will be given out about your role. But you won't know who will receive the gift. That's what the GM will decide (since giving the BO a BO gift would be meh)

People can decide on it during night 1 for example. And get the gift on day 1 (you send the PM results when the day 1 phase begins. Or when the day 1 phase ends. Depends how fast you finish it)
Only people who wouldn't get a hint are the ones that die on night 1 and maybe day 1 :x

[Conia]

I think the mayor problem people see with hints is, that it's random.

I can't stop laughing after reading this but I can't explain why till my Round starts

[PT]

In extreme cases it will make the BO change their night target to kill a player they would have ignored otherwise that would have found 2 BOs out during that phase

Not gonna lie - that kinda sucked.

Overall, I don't think hints are a bad thing. It just depends on the hint (can't be something so blatantly obvious that it get someone killed, for example) and how it's handled.

[Yurikochan]

In extreme cases it will make the BO change their night target to kill a player they would have ignored otherwise that would have found 2 BOs out during that phase

Not gonna lie - that kinda sucked.

Overall, I don't think hints are a bad thing. It just depends on the hint (can't be something so blatantly obvious that it get someone killed, for example) and how it's handled.

I was the only person that wanted to kill you, but no one else did.

*flees from the wrath of PT*

[PT]

I am well aware of that, Yuriko.

Don't worry, I'll get my revenge in a way you'd never expect.

[Kleene Onigiri]

I think the mayor problem people see with hints is, that it's random.

I can't stop laughing after reading this but I can't explain why till my Round starts

And here I thought I wrote something wrong/silly D: XD

[Abs.]

Calling it now

Conia's round: The Mayor decides who gets the hints

[Yurikochan]

I am well aware of that, Yuriko.

Don't worry, I'll get my revenge in a way you'd never expect.

Well you DID keep telling me you were trying to prove me and Abs. Heiji-niichan!

What kill me on night 1 in Conia's round. Then kidnap me so I can't distract him!