Mafia Round 18: Jungle Bells (Town wins)

[Dus]

No, it's actually Son Goku.

@Akonyl: I knew something sounded off, cheers.

[Eve]

But that role is from DC, right?

Maybe's its Yamamura's grandma

No, it's actually Son Goku.

The Steroid-guy

[Abs.]

I'm TELLING you guys, the role is "Abs."!

Whichever side "Abs." is on, that side automatically loses! 

[Eve]

Whichever side "Abs." is on, that side automatically loses! 

You know, I'm actually believing this statement more and more LOL

[Akonyl]

Oh, I just realized that the new role is actually half-defined in the town list. So, that's more understandable, I spose.

Also, you didn't list the change to kogoro in the "changes" section.

And, though it's not a big deal, I was thinking he'd get sober before Night 4, not after, so he'd be able to interrogate on night 4 successfully. My thinking on that was on day 3 he'd still be hung-over, but on night 4 he would have lost all of his alcohol. :V

also: The new role's interrogate being , will it be correct to whichever faction they're on, or is it another unknown thing?

[Dus]

Abs.

Night action: Investigate1 and Special Investigate 1 OR Interrogate
Prep. Action: Yes
Interrogation:
Scent: No
Disguise: No
Items: Panties, head gear, gun
Observe:

Care to explain, abs.?

The interrogation will reveal the correct result (unless slandered).

[Kleene Onigiri]

Abs.

Night action: Investigate1 and Special Investigate 1 OR Interrogate
Prep. Action: Yes
Interrogation:
Scent: No
Disguise: No
Items: Panties, head gear, gun
Observe:

Care to explain, abs.?

We still don't know the gender from Abs. actually. Nothing wrong here :x

[Akonyl]

The interrogation will reveal the correct result (unless slandered).

might wanna clear that up then.

Also, is it that she can do
(Investigate and Special Investigate) OR Interrogation
or
Investigate and (Special Investigate OR Interrogation)
?

[Abs.]

Don't steal my pretty pink lace panties! 

[Grawwbear]

Hrm, new role?

Mmn. Two names do pop into the muddled brain of the bear...

[PT]

I'm TELLING you guys, the role is "Abs."!

Whichever side "Abs." is on, that side automatically loses! 

Alright so we have the player Abs. and the role Abs. What happens if player Abs. isn't the role Abs.? What if player Abs. is on the opposite side of whoever is the role Abs.? Who wins?

[nomemory]

I'm TELLING you guys, the role is "Abs."!

Whichever side "Abs." is on, that side automatically loses!   :D

Alright so we have the player Abs. and the role Abs. What happens if player Abs. isn't the role Abs.? What if player Abs. is on the opposite side of whoever is the role Abs.? Who wins?

Obviously both sides loose.

[Dus]

I'm TELLING you guys, the role is "Abs."!

Whichever side "Abs." is on, that side automatically loses!   :D

Alright so we have the player Abs. and the role Abs. What happens if player Abs. isn't the role Abs.? What if player Abs. is on the opposite side of whoever is the role Abs.? Who wins?

The GM

[Akonyl]

so on the forum index, this topic is abbreviated as:
Re: Mafia Round 18: Jing...

why are we trying to summon Jing? D:

[Schillok]

I also have an idea, but I still wonder who runs around with a gun and headgear... but without having a car.
A gun-wielding teenager? A crook too poor for a car?

Also, the abilities... interrogating is rather unusual, same with special investigate.
BTW: Special Investigate can also be used on action during same same night, so it is already the same as "investigate 1".

It can't be Yamamura's grandma though... because she has a car.  ::)


So, let me state what I noticed:

- Ai and Sherry may both be in the game

It should be the same as Shinichi and Conan: Only one of them can be in the game.
Otherwise we could get in the situation where Sherry kills her future self. Or Ai lynches her past self. Or... Anyway, it makes no sense. Since we know that Sherry became Haibara there should be no way that both are in the same game.


Kir, Undercover Agent
Status: NOC
Night action: Betrayal OR Special Investigate

Since I was the only player ever having been Kir (as far as I know): It would be better of you allow both Betrayal AND Special Investigate. Being interrogated as "BO" makes the role very endangered in the first place. When comparing her to Okiya (who is similar in both having a BO trait (scent) and two abilities that are somehow homologous to Kirs), then Kirs weakness is more of an issue and at the same time both of her abilities are also more situational.
So at least allowing her to use both (like Okiya does) could help this rather weak role...


- Kogoro getting sobber during night 4

I already suggested this before, but: I think making him sobber after for example 6 people had been killed might be better.
If the game develops slowly (not many deaths), it takes him a bit longer to get into the game. No problem, since the town is getting stronger later in the game anway.
If the game develops quickly (many deaths), he might become sobber earlier. Good as well, since his help will probably be needed then.


Sonoko using her friends ability

It's worth a try I guess. In the worst case we have her befriending Araide, creating another almost unkillable monster this round...
Still, I am okay with trying it out.


Poison
- Roles with that action: Sherry
- Night action, Crime, can be covered
- Can try to poison one player during the night.
-Sherry has 2 APTX that can be used for the Poison ability, which follow the same rues as other APTX
- Can still poison during the day like the other BOs

How does covering poison work?
Will Calvados have his own poison? So can he just poison randomly without consequences? Or would he have to cover another BO once he failed twice? Can he only poison if Sherry has two APTX? If he can also poison if she only has one - what happens if she is right, but he is wrong? And if it is the other way around?
If Sherry gets arrested, will the poison get confiscated? If Sherry gets arrested while covered, will Calvados still poison?
Can Calvados use covered poison to kill another BO member? Can Sherry use it for that reason. Even if they are involved in a town-BO love? And what if they are not?
What if Calvados tries to kill Sherry with the poison? He can't succeed, because you can't cover if the covered player dies during that night. Or can you? He also can't fail, because that would mean Sherry survived which means the cover should have worked. Or does he?


Pinch Face
- Role with that action: Nakamori
- Night/Day action, can be covered
- Every phase, Nakamori can check a player for a disguise
- If the player is not in disguise, the action will return a false
- If they are, then they are stripped of their disguise and their action for that phase will fail
- Nakamori will learn that the player was in disguise and also which disguise it was.
- Kid and Vermouth will then be assigned a new disguise at random.
- The target will be notified that they were pinched.

Why should the target just lose the disguise? Why doesn't he arrest him/her right away once he found someone in disguise.
"It is KID! Get him!"
"It is the BO Vermouth! Get her!"
"It is the BO Irish! Get him!"
"It is... a famous actress? Get her anyway!"

Saves a lot of trouble and makes using the ability more of a liability if Nakamori isn't careful.
I see no reason why he would left the disguised player get away. Just to arrest him anyway during the next phase.
It also makes it needless to make the disguised target fail their actions - if they get arrested, that is exactly what would have happened anyway.


Additionally, it might also be a good idea to make it a night-only ability. Otherwise he might go through all players too quickly and find a disguised player purely at random. Considering he already has the abilities of a normal police there is no need to make him that strong.