Espionage - Round 5 (Spy and Informants Win)

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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 1)

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I think bad arguments on both sides are hurting things.

And seriously, PhantomWriter, saying that you're not going to vote just ups your chances of being lynched because then people know there's already one vote on you, and at this stage even one other vote could tip the scales.
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 1)

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Stopwatch wrote:I think bad arguments on both sides are hurting things.

And seriously, PhantomWriter, saying that you're not going to vote just ups your chances of being lynched because then people know there's already one vote on you, and at this stage even one other vote could tip the scales.
Could you explain about the bad arguments on both sides? I would honestly like to know.

I understand. But that's rather stupid, lynching people like that just because they know that there's a vote for someone already. We shouldn't be doing the spy's job for them, narrowing down the amount of civilians that the detective can hide among. :-\
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 1)

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PhantomWriter wrote:I understand. But that's rather stupid, lynching people like that just because they know that there's a vote for someone already. We shouldn't be doing the spy's job for them, narrowing down the amount of civilians that the detective can hide among. :-\


The Spy and the Informants will do it for sure. They want people out of the game. They don't want a tie.

And even if they don't, people usualy vote randomly on Day 1, so most players get one or two votes at most.
This means you don't want a [bonus] extra vote for you.
It's up to you though. It's not like you're going to get lynched for sure.
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 1)

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Some people think that a lynch D1 is advantageous. I personally disagree, especially in this situation, but I don't think you can always say "x will act like this because it's logical" because a) humans aren't logical and b) not everyone follows the same reasoning as each other (aka, why do you think Vulcans have so many disagreements? :V).

Hmm, doubles? Perhaps?
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 1)

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Then I'm voting for a random person. I apologize in advance if I vote for a civilian or the detective to get lynched. :I
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 2)

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Day 1 ends!
RoboG55 (Civilian) has been killed.
PhantomWriter (Informant) has been lynched.

Votes:
  • PhantomWriter (3)
    • RainHeaven
    • MoonRaven
    • Jecka
  • Kleene Onigiri (2)
    • Fujiwara
    • Jellitto
  • Jellitto (2)
    • Raifuujin
    • Kleene Onigiri
  • Stopwatch (1)
    • RoboG55
  • MoonRaven (1)
    • Stopwatch
  • Togop (1)
    • Togop
  • Fujiwara (1)
    • shinichi'sapprentice
  • miyano_shiho (1)
    • PhantomWriter
  • shinichi'sapprentice (1)
    • Yuri Iwamoto
  • RainHeaven (1)
    • dumytru
  • RoboG55 (1)
    • miyano_shiho
It is now Day 2!


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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 2)

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Whoa, nice! One Informant down ...

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"Voting Day 1 is bad!" yeah right :x
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 2)

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"Ditch Day 1" ...it worked...?! :o xDD

*after 13 hours...* -_-

alright,.. Let's get to work!

i nominate Fujiwara to be voted Day 2. you guys don't have to provide reasons if you want to have another candidate for the lynch. buttttt, give a damn good reason on why you are voting for whoever person you're voting. ;D i have my reasons. but i choose to disclose it after i see a good number of discussions from you all. 8-) Let's do this!
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I woke up and decided to check out the situation... My hunch was right?
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 2)

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shinichi'sapprentice wrote:"Ditch Day 1" ...it worked...?! :o xDD

*after 13 hours...* -_-

alright,.. Let's get to work!

i nominate Fujiwara to be voted Day 2. you guys don't have to provide reasons if you want to have another candidate for the lynch. buttttt, give a damn good reason on why you are voting for whoever person you're voting. ;D i have my reasons. but i choose to disclose it after i see a good number of discussions from you all. 8-) Let's do this!
SA, you're kinda strange kinda here. Not that I think you're the spy, just that I don't remember you suspecting someone on solid grounds but refusing to explain before.

I think I may have an idea of what you're doing, and while I'd abstain from telling everyone what I think it is just in case, I'd tell you "Don't. It's too obvious."
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 2)

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I got killed already!? Awwww :(
At least we got one Informant!
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 2)

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i am not refusing to explain. i said...
shinichi'sapprentice wrote:... but i choose to disclose it after i see a good number of discussions from you all...
and oh, what's with the self-vote? is that an order from the spy?
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Wow, I just had a random gut feeling that never happens :x

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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 2)

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shinichi'sapprentice wrote:i am not refusing to explain. i said...
shinichi'sapprentice wrote:... but i choose to disclose it after i see a good number of discussions from you all...
and oh, what's with the self-vote? is that an order from the spy?
No. I just didn't have anyone to vote for. Besides, an order for informants to self-vote doesn't make sense because it both increases the chances for the informant to get lynched, limits their actions, and considering how many self-votes happened day 1 in some previous games, it's likely to fail to identify the informant anyway.

Anyway, guess I'll go along with what I think you have in mind (though I think you should stop) even if it's too transperant to work.
Anyway, about Fujiwara, so far he voted for Kleene. Kleene, along with Raifuujin, voted for Jellitto.
Kleene day 1 said she'd do SA's strategy (I believe referring to the no-post), but posting itself ruins the strategy the goal of which was not to let the informants identify. This makes me wonder if she's informant, or just wanted to post yet not post anything substantial.
Fujiwara... I don't want to lynch her yet, despite the reasons I suspect you have, as she'd be valuable to civillians if she's one.
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