ESPIONAGE: Campaign Round - DETECTIVES AND CIVILIANS WIN!

[shinichi'sapprentice]

I WILL GIVE MY FULL EXPLANATION AS SOON AS I GET ACCESS TO MY COMPUTER @_@

I AM NOT REALLY DREAMING RIGHT??! WE REALLY GOT A SPY RIGHT??! ;_; FINALLY ASDFGHJKLAGRIFLUAIEAIFAZ

FUJI!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOUR DEATH WILL NOT GO TO WASTE! ASDFGHJKLJAERKLAJWLULAJEPJAGRLKW

[dumytru]

@dumy: Interesting theory, but I don't think SA is evil...
Having doubts about Stopwatch's evilness as well

How much of it should I trust?

God, I'm too tired to even think now. Tomorrow I'l analize it all over again.

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But HOW did the spy knew you weren't the Detective, and why they didn't even bothered to kill you, SA!?!
Ofc, unless they ALREADY tried to kill you. And failed.

[shinichi'sapprentice]

EIGHT TO NINE HOURS! YOU SHALL HEAR MY ANSWERS ASDFGHJKLKAILZVSOPAOZI

I'LL SEE YOU ALL LATER

SPY! YOU ARE NEXT!

[dumytru]

EIGHT TO NINE HOURS! YOU SHALL HEAR MY ANSWERS ASDFGHJKLKAILZVSOPAOZI

I'LL SEE YOU ALL LATER

SPY! YOU ARE NEXT!

One thing, please post your list.

[shinichi'sapprentice]

OH YES I WILL

[MDavid]

I guess the results make Stopwatch innocent or at least less suspicious.

Otherwise Fujiwara would have just let her be arrested. Or maybe he wasn't sure about her but was sure about Raifuujin.

Anyway, taking 4 of her vote slots in advance and eliminating her like that, nice move.

EDIT: Sorry, I discovered this just now:

Having doubts about Stopwatch's evilness as well

[dumytru]

[shinichi'sapprentice]

...just in case y'all are still waiting, my post is still being typed

i'll try to make it fast but it really might take a while @_@ apologies in advance

hang in there...

*sneaky post from dumytru xD

DO NOT WORRY! *checks what i have written so far* ...only two lines so far xD ...i need to eat too @_@

*disappears to writeeatwrite*

EDITx2: *edited Last Line* *reedited Last Line* *gets serious*

[shinichi'sapprentice]

OK. LET'S GO!

i am saving some of what i have to say for post-game discussions but here goes

@Day 3, i pretty much figured out who one of the detective is based on my list. and i was right @_@ when Jd- died, everything just went... quiet... that was not good... if we do not do anything, everything will just be in favor of the spies... i do not know what Jd- was planning for us the day after he died. but i really want to know..! *_* so anyway... how did i figure out Jecka was a detective? well, first, she is in my list. second, on Day 2, i suggested that thing where we... give +2 votes to people we have "proven" NOT spy...

Jecka's Day 2 votes:
+2 Iwamoto Yuri
+1 Osaka Detective
+1 Raifuujin
+1 Kamite

that being said, i'm really glad she has proven one civilian! that is, Iwamoto Yuri!

other outstanding Day 2 votes:

shinichi'sapprentice:
+1 dumytru
+1 Jecka
+2 Raifuujin
+1 Nemomon

Jd-:
+1 Fujiwara
+2 Kaito Lady
+2 Raiden

Osaka Detective:
+3 Jd-
+1 Raiden
+1 Stopwatch

Raiden:
+2 Jd-
+1 Jellitto
+1 Raifuujin
+1 Kamite

...Osaka Detective's votes really are the most attention-seeking one @_@ i only suggested giving +2 votes... while he was in my list too, it was either he was being suicidal and really trying to yell and scream that he has "proven" Jd- NOT spy or... i don't even know...

Raiden's votes here were merely in reply to Jd-'s +2 votes though and also, he is not in my list.

at the end of Day 2, i feared that Jecka wasn't able to get any helpful results. notice how she reacted on everyone's death here and only to Raiden's death here... not that she doesn't care about Kamite's and Kaito Lady's death xD but anyway this is just a speculation on my part xD was she trying to signal that she got Raiden as NOT spy..? Jecka! tell me after the game! xD

moving on... on Day 3, the worst scenario had occurred ;_; it seems like Jecka wasn't able to send her votes ;_; and of course... it is safe to say that she also forgot to send her investigations ;_; while this is very careless as a detective, it also then made me start to consider that she's probably a spy due to only one death on that day. however, that was only one point versus so many points that points to her being a detective xD

continuing on with that, Jd- has also died and nobody else really had any plans for us to move forward even myself ;_; i tried really hard figuring out what Jd- wanted to do but i'm not getting anywhere... ;_; so, while looking at my notes...

Day 1 RESULTS BOARD:
Jd- = +9 ←killed D3
Fujiwara = +9
shinichi'sapprentice = +7
Kaito Lady = +7 ←killed D2
Jecka = +7
Iwamoto Yuri = +6
Raiden = +6 ←killed D2
dumytru = +5
Stopwatch = +5
Togop = +4 ←killed D1
MoonRaven = +3
Raifuujin = +3
MDavid = +3
darkest absol = +2 ←killed D1
Nemomon = +2
Osaka Detective = +1 ←arrested D3
Jellitto = 0
Kamite = 0 ←arrested D2
k11chi = -4 ←arrested D1

Day 2 RESULTS BOARD:
Jd- = +9 ←killed D3
Iwamoto Yuri = +7
Raiden = +6 ←killed D2
shinichi'sapprentice = +5
Fujiwara = +5
Kaito Lady = +5 ←killed D2
MoonRaven = +5
Jecka = +5
Jellitto = +4
Raifuujin = +4
Nemomon = +4
MDavid = +2
dumytru = +1
Osaka Detective = +1 ←arrested D3
Stopwatch = -1
Kamite = -2 ←arrested D2

...i realized i was one of the people who earned some of the top votes. with that, i considered perhaps... i should claim being detective... and now you will hear my reason/s out... what i have planned to do is rather very risky dangerous @_@ while i don't know how many times i appeared on all civilian's list, i could really use Day 1's and Day 2's results to make the spies believe that i am indeed a detective. i do not have to worry about civilians trying to object and reveal that i am lying since only one detective's name should almost always appear on every civilian's list. both detectives were also still alive at that time so i really do not have to worry about it. but anyway, my ultimate goal was to buy more time for the REAL detectives to gain more proven civilians. i didn't care if i die since it would at least have each detective gain one more investigate.

now, on to the problems of claiming being the detective... of course... how else can i make everyone believe me but to reveal my so-called "proven" NOT spy people... you don't know how many times i walked around the house while thinking... how many times i killed the replay button of the music i was playing just to calm me down... how many times i reloaded the forums checking for new replies... how many coff-... how many possible questions i might get thrown at i tried to list... AND THE MOST DIFFICULT ONE... trying to come up with my fake investigations for the past three days...

naming three people that are probably NOT spies was indeed very hard @_@ i decided that maybe i should use my list... evidences really show that Jecka might be a detective. but i was a bit hesitant since she did not vote at Day 3. a very careless move for a detective to do. naming one person is already hard... naming a second person is more harder @_@ i looked at my list again and decided to go with Raifuujin, the quiet one... advantages and disadvantages to be listed below... now for the third person i should label as NOT spy... i was really running out of coff- i mean ideas so i thought i might as well say that i proved someone already dead as NOT spy... it will also help me prove one theory... also, one last before i move on to the next... i have no idea if my fake investigations were convincing enough and looks like something that contains people i will try to actually investigate @_@

naming Jecka and Raifuujin as NOT spies... if both are really NOT spies, then my ultimate goal, that is, buying some more time for the real detectives to gain more investigations, will work since the real spies won't waste the chance to kill a possible detective, that is, me... also, i might just get both spies to target me and reduce the number of deaths to two! if Raifuujin is NOT spy and Jecka is a spy, then i will still probably die on the hands of the other spy that is not Jecka. but i consider this not likely since Jecka as i said is looking more like a detective. now... if Jecka is NOT spy and Raifuujin is a spy.......... then i will still probably die on the hands of the other spy that is not Raifuujin. both scenario, still will make the other REAL detective more time to get more investigations. ALSO! remember my suggested strategy on Day 2... WHO DID I GIVE MY +2 VOTES ON THAT DAY?! since the start of the game (and if not already obvious, every espionage round... xD), i have been trying to make myself look like a detective. i was expecting to die on Day 3 but i did not... the thought that Raifuujin might have caught on in what i'm trying to do is starting to surface on my mind... AND THEN... i still lived up to Day 4!

@Day 4... *right after phase change*

me: "ohmygosh! O_O Raifuujin is a spy! Raifuujin is a spy! Raifuujin is a spy!"

...i really had been struck hard with Jecka's death and i really need to get out there and reveal that Raifuujin is probably a spy! BUT THEN! with the exchange of that faint lead, i will have to reveal that i am not really a detective... ALSO, i need to get out there fast since if the other real detective slips and gets all confused, we are all doomed! there is also the pressure of my other fellow five remaining civilians THAT MIGHT HAVE A LIST CONTAINING NOT MY NAME AND Jecka's!! if whoever it may be try to reveal that i am lying, they will risk the life of the other real detective! so, out of us six remaining living civilians, if there is anyone that actually does not have my name and Jecka's in their list, thank you so very much for not revealing that! anyways... it took me a while to calm down and get to the realization that maybe i should continue posing as the detective... but by doing so, Raifuujin will continue to live on... so yeah... i tried to shut up and let the real detective handle it on their own and let them decide if they will reveal themselves or not... i don't even know if they have proven me already @_@ so while i was waiting for the real detective to go and make their move, i need to continue on posing as a detective and decide what we should do @_@ I HAD NO IDEA WHAT TO DO SINCE Jecka, the detective who was in my list, is already dead and my list is totally already obsolete @_@ I HAD NO OTHER LEADS ASIDE FROM THE THEORY THAT Raifuujin is probably a spy! i needed to get in contact with the real detective and tell me what to do @_@ the most obvious hint that i did, trying to get the attention of the real detective and civilians who have lists containing not my name and Jecka's, was to ask Raifuujin's list. i had so much doubts if this would actually work since the other spy (not Raifuujin) might get a hint that i'm actually faking being a detective. but yeah...

Raifuujin! that was one heck of a well-constructed fake list! if i saw that you only put my name in that list, i would really be almost certain... IT WOULD HAVE PROVEN MY THEORY 100% THAT YOU ARE A SPY. also, this should really be obvious for the real detective. BUT! YOU JUST HAD TO PUT Jecka's NAME IN IT @_@ and with that, my theory was starting to fall apart... 'coz you might just not actually be a spy... there's also that Fujiwara keeps on saying that she trusts you @_@ *this part might be edited since i have not reread everything yet from page 1 and i have to check if Fuji actually said that... xD i am just writing all this from memory and notes and not based on what has been said*

ok so i'm lost now... where was i... ah! arresting Stopwatch! in order to move forward, we need to decide on who we should arrest next! and Stopwatch... has been trying to stop us from doing that... @_@ HOWEVER! i really don't suspect Stopwatch of being a spy that much for reasons i will provide in just a moment... if you may have read, i mentioned "i may have some other people i may want to put up for the arrest, but if you will just stop... blahblahblah"... I DON'T REALLY HAVE SPY SUSPECTS ASIDE FROM Raifuujin @_@ but i am trying to make Stopwatch talk BECAUSE

1. SHE IS THE OTHER SPY! ...that is why i put her up for the arrest. if she really is, then finally! @_@ ...but there really is one thing that contradicts this that i did not pointed out on Day 5... REMEMBER THIS... ON DAY 2, THERE WERE TWO DEATHS BY THE HANDS OF THE SPIES, AND ON THAT DAY, Stopwatch HAS NOT SENT ANY VOTES! IT WOULD REALLY BE CARELESS ON HER PART IF SHE REALLY IS A SPY! WHY THE HECK WOULD SHE RISK DYING BY NOT SENDING IN VOTES?! UNLESS... THIS IS ACTUALLY HOW SHE WANTS ME TO THINK AND SHE ACTUALLY SENT IN HER KILL EARLIER AND JUST FORGOT/INTENTIONALLY DID NOT SEND VOTES TO CONFUSE ME xD and again, there's also that matter that she won't really be attracting too much attention to herself if she indeed was a spy... BUT! ...WHY DOES SHE KEEP TRYING TO STOP OUR ARREST ANYWAY?! THAT IS PROBABLY BECAUSE...

2. SHE IS THE OTHER REAL DETECTIVE! ...i feared this. i feared this so much! xD but then, why so bold in doing what she's doing?! @_@ i have two theories on that... which i apologize for not sharing on Day 5

be reminded that on Day 3, there was only one death due to spy killings...

a. Stopwatch is a spy, and she had tried to kill someone but failed because that person was the other spy!

b. Stopwatch is a detective and has been trying to tell us that she has proven Osaka Detective as NOT spy... Same with Nemomon on the latest case of stopping the arrest...

THAT IS WHY... I WENT AHEAD AND TRIED TO ASK ALL THOSE UNORGANIZED AND NOT WELL-THOUGHT QUESTIONS xD that way, i could try to get in contact with the real detective and they could also try to sneak in their real investigations! and actually give me a lead on what i should do xD ...because i was totally lost @_@

3. SHE IS THAT CIVILIAN THAT I FEAR SO MUCH AND POSSESS A LIST CONTAINING NOT MY NAME AND Jecka's! this is a very careless and not well-thought move if she actually is that person... MIND YOU, THAT THE MOMENT I DECIDED TO POSE AS A DETECTIVE, I NOT ONLY WAS TRYING TO BUY TIME FOR THE REAL DETECTIVES BUT ALSO HAVE THESE THINGS IN MIND:

~if i accidentally named a person as NOT spy then that person was actually a spy, then i will live on. obviously, they will not even try to kill me because duh... while i fail to achieve my original goal which is to buy the real detectives some more time to gather more investigations, i will still get a lead on possible spies! ...and that has been the advantages and disadvantages of killing shinichi'sapprentice xD
~*there is one other thing i wanted to say here but i forgot @_@ will get back to this in case i remember* <.<

...so yeah, if she was that civilian, then she would have risked the life of the real detective.

uhmm... now, what was i gonna say... ah... what had happened... so yeah... i was trying to get the real detective to talk! and if Stopwatch was the real detective, then all the more reason i have to make her talk! but... see here. that was me saying... "...not the detective" xD

anyway, before i move on... Stopwatch! i apologize for being very aggressive! i needed you to talk if you were the real detective! actually, i thank you for opposing us so very strong, we made everyone talk! however, i wonder what could have happened if i push through on arresting Nemomon or another person. i had no choice but to try to arrest you even though i don't really suspect you strongly for reasons provided above. we needed to stop the failed arrests. also..........

Fujiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!! that was so awesome! *_* Team 2: The Consulting Criminals, Raifuujin and Fujiwara has parted ways and became Spy vs Detective! xDD anyways, you gotta tell me after the game if you have known that Raifuujin was actually a spy! what were your actual thoughts when i asked for her list?! *is hyped* xD

ok... so what was i gonna say next... @_@ maybe i should hit Submit now and get started on rereading everything from page 1 since i haven't done so yet... *this will be the third time i'll be rereading actually...* xD i was so excited we got a spy, i haven't really had any new leads on who might be the other spy... @_@ from memory... i don't think Fuji gave me enough hints/leads to go on @_@ ...or maybe she just hid it all well!

but i will reread everything now! thank you all for waiting now good luck reading while i try to reread everything again xD

six civilian warriors as i call it... xD we are all still alive! i am actually one of you if you don't believe it xD now, Let's not waste Fuji's death and go on a journey to take down the other remaining spy! asdfghjkl;ljzufisopslbzsogrbzjsldagkz

\o/

ADDITIONAL(...before i hit Submit xD): reminder to myself: talk about the kills especially what went on @Day 4 and probably Day 5 as well

*hits Submit*

[dumytru]

Everybody, please share your thoughts. I'll do the same tonight (a couple of hours before phase change).


Till then, I'll just drop this in here.

[shinichi'sapprentice]

detective Fujiwara's posts

--PREP PHASE
~"Here o/"
~Fuji comments on Togop's post

--DAY 1
~Fuji cannot be bribed...
~Fuji questions MDavid's suspicions on her

--DAY 2
~Fuji opposes shinichi'sapprentice's proposal
~Fuji opposes some more...
~Fuji votes for Jd-, Iwamoto Yuri, and Stopwatch, and opposes some more... xD

--DAY 3
~Fuji's thoughts on Jd-'s strategy
~Fuji points out that shinichi'sapprentice had not answered the question yet
~Fuji helps with votes redistribution

--DAY 4
~Fuji supports the controlling of the lynch and... "As for people I trust: This is Espionage - I don't trust anyone " xD
~"Dun, dun, dun..." xDD
~Fuji wants me dead ...i mean wants me to get sleep xD
~Fuji calms shinichi'sapprentice down xD
~Fuji helps with votes redistribution part 1
~Fuji helps with votes redistribution part 2
~Fuji helps with votes redistribution part 3
~...coffee

--DAY 5
~Fuji's reaction to the other detective's death and attempt to make Stopwatch talk
~Fuji questions shinichi'sapprentice on asking Raifuujin of her list
~Fuji, on discussion with Jecka's investigation results
~"I don't see how not lynching anyone is helpful"
~Fuji tries to make sense of Stopwatch's strategy
~Fuji answers shinichi'sapprentice's barrage of questions xD
~Fuji says that starting the arrest at 11 AM EST is too late

--DAY 5 (EXTENDED!!)
~Fuji thanks the mayor for the extension
~Fuji's last post!!

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detective Fujiwara's votes

DAY 1:
+1 Kaito Lady
+1 Iwamoto Yuri
+1 Jd-
+1 Raiden
+1 Togop

DAY 2:
+1 shinichi'sapprentice
+1 Iwamoto Yuri
+1 Jd-
+1 Raiden
+1 Stopwatch

DAY 3:
+1 dumytru
+1 Iwamoto Yuri
+1 Raifuujin
+2 Stopwatch

DAY 4:
+1 dumytru
+3 shinichi'sapprentice
+1 Jellitto

DAY 5:
+3 Stopwatch
+2 Nemomon

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HELP ME FIND WHO SHE CLEARED!

*continues rererererererereading* xD

[MoonRaven]

hm... O.O this was an intersting and surprising turn. I have no idea whom to vote now.

[shinichi'sapprentice]

the Day 4 results..

Iwamoto Yuri - Civilian
Jecka - Detective

i am really very bothered about Day 4's results...

on Day 4, i have claimed being detective and was expecting to be killed.

HOWEVER, that did not happen!

the only person who should have known that i am not saying the truth at the time should be Raifuujin!

HOW IN THE WORLD DID THE OTHER SPY FIGURE OUT THAT I WAS NOT REALLY THE DETECTIVE?! @_@

Jecka might have been too obvious on being a detective but how did they manage to coordinate the kills and not overlap with each other's @_@

here are my notes by the way on who i thought were the spies... this is based on trying to figure out how the spies managed to coordinate the kill and as you will see, it's totally wrong! but just wanted to share it anyway... i didn't write the reason on why i think they are the spies though @_@

Nemomon-Stopwatch
Raifuujin-Fujiwara
Fujiwara-Stopwatch?
Nemomon-Fujiwara?ohmygosh!
Fujiwara-MoonRaven?OHMYGOSH!T_T

↑this is exactly how i wrote it in my notes... i don't even... @_@ ...oh wait... i think it's because i was trying to figure out who was trying to protect who because of that theory about Day 3 when only one person was killed which means a spy might have tried to kill the other spy

that's not all... since Raifuujin was arrested on Day 5, that means the other spy actually is thinking ahead from all of us..?

this is when i usually start asking... "who did you think was the detective?"

...but most of you won't be able to answer that, eh? really sorry about that...

anyway... who did i think was the detective?!

1. dumytru
--this guy... his last posts on Day 5 made me think he was being a suicidal detective telling us who he had cleared @_@

2. MDavid
--i don't even know... my notes say that he mentioned that he trusts Raifuujin, Iwamoto Yuri, and shinichi'sapprentice. Raifuujin turned out to be a spy though @_@

3. Stopwatch
--only until i posted "@_@" xD

4. Fujiwara
--...she didn't give me enough clues on who she cleared though @_@ PLEASE HELP ME OUT ON THIS ONE!!

5. --and that's it i think

AT THE MOMENT, if i will have to send my vote, i think Nemomon is the other spy... HOWEVER, i am still trying to figure out who did Fujiwara cleared @_@

*sneaky post from MoonRaven hmm..

[shinichi'sapprentice]

OK FELLOW CIVILIANS!

i have this question in mind that i have been wanting to ask in forever...

ARE WE, REMAINING SIX CIVILIANS ALL HAVE Jecka IN OUR LISTS?! @_@

...is there even one of us that had not my name and Jecka's on their list?!

EDIT:

*Looks at the clock*

@__@

oi! say something y'all..

[Jellitto]

Some thoughts of players:

dumytru
- Seems civilian... but I´m not sure...

SA
- I believe he´s not a spy.

Moon
- I thought she overreacted a bit D4 when she wasn´t the one with the most "votes" to be lynched.

Stopwatch
- I agree with SA that her not voting D2 can be seen so that she´s not a spy.

MDavid
- Fuji said she thought he is a civilian (in response to dumytru).
- Didn´t want to say who he suspects of being spies though.

Nemomon
- I´m really not sure of him.
- Was one of Fuji´s top suspects

HOW IN THE WORLD DID THE OTHER SPY FIGURE OUT THAT I WAS NOT REALLY THE DETECTIVE?! @_@

This one theory came to my mind this morning after I had seen the current situation:
D3, the other spy tried to kill Raifuujin and that way understood that she was the other spy. Then when you said you had cleared Raifuujin, both spies knew you were lying and didn´t want to waste a kill on you.

As for my list, I do have Jecka there.