Mafia - Round 9 (Town wins!)

[Schillok]

Seems like xpon is still inactive. Never got in cantact with him since the beginning of the game. So I make a suggestion:

Either we leave it like it is and xpon is inactive. But this way the side he's on has a disadvantage.

So my suggestion:
If xpon has a ally from the beginning, like he's BO or a townie that got a ally, that ally may vote in his stead and may use his ability too.
If xpon doesn't have an ally, he'll be voting randomly for a person that has at least 1 vote from another player. Or it will be choosen randomly from all players that are alive (so he could vote for himself or someone else who isn't voted at all)

This is just a suggestion. So you can accept it or not. I'll do it depending what you, the players want.

Going to sleep now

Ohh, can I become xpons role and rejoin the game?
Just kidding. 

Well, I agree with the "ally" solution. If he has an ally that ally should control him (until xpon returns) and gain all the information from his actions.
Otherwise... I suggest you just select a player at random (from the town - if he is BO he will have allies that can control him) and have xpon "mimic" that players moves. Voting for the same player and- if possible - use his abilities on the same target as the selected player.

[pofa]

Tommy has misunderstood BO rules too in his PMs to me.  This morning he said I could have "slandered" his investigation on conia last night and made it come out "false," since I knew he was going to investigate. (Sorry Tommy. Trying to help. ^^)

But yes, he wants my role too. He's not the only one who wants it, but he's asked the most times. But I do know his (claimed) role (it was sort of an accident that I found out) so he may just be asking me to be "fair" and tell him mine. (My actions got thwarted...how can I trust anyone now??)

[Detective Tommy]

Sure, you do that Tommy. There's so many lies in here...
First, I want to apologize to everyone who PM me, Tommy included, because I can't load this website, and I tried EVERYTHING. I couldn't make it before the deadline...
Now using a proxy I'm able to log in, at an extremely low connection, but I can log in at least.

Point 1: You claimed to be a role after another person told me he/she was that role. This made you an instant prime suspect for me. I decided to investigate you (not literally)
Turns out you are trying to make alliances with lots of people, trying to find allies everywhere, but with that claimed role, you couldn't be able to prove to all of them.

Point 2: You never ceased to talk about the BO things, knowing things about them, while you tend to ask in the thread some things that look rather simple. Of course, BO members have to know everything they are able to do. This is a weak point, but it caught my attention.

Point 3: You asked, and not just once, to tell you my role while I told you mine. All along you knew I could investigate just like you claimed and an exchange of investigations would have been enough to proved ourselves, yet you insisted on giving out roles...

What can you say about this?

1) I only PM'ed you and Pofa to alliance. Two isn't a whole bunch of people.
2) The person that PM'ed you saying he has my role (Yes Pofa told me who) is lying. It's impossible. This mean James Rye is lying, so he's BO. Why did you trust him so easily?
3) Give me an example of something that I asked that was SO simple... I only ask about the hints, and some things I don't know of. (Didn't know how tapes, slander, APTX work. So I asked.)
4) I told you my role, and you never did tell me yours. All you said is you can investigate. I insisted because I needed an alliance, so I can tell my role. I took a risk and told you.


Another thing. According to Pofa, you said you didn't have to investigate James Rye because you knew he is TOWN.
Meaning you might be lovers or best friends.

But James Rye claimed to be MY ROLE. And if he is your best friend/lover then you should know he was lying.

[Akonyl]

well then detective tommy, what role are you? Feel free to PM it to me, I won't bite.

[pofa]

I want to make it clear that conia never claimed to me that he and James Rye were lovers or best friends...He didn't even say he knew JR's role for sure. Just that he deduced JR was town from Night 1. Evidently he did not do this by investigation like he told everyone, but maybe something else went on. He sounded very sure about it that first time he brought it up.

Or he's BO and lying. 

And yes, both Tommy and James Rye have claimed to me to be the same role. Tommy has revealed the results of his supposed abilities to me, but JR hasn't. And of course, I have no idea who actually did what last night.

[Conia]

I want to make it clear that conia never claimed to me that he and James Rye were lovers or best friends...He didn't even say he knew JR's role for sure. Just that he deduced JR was town from Night 1. Evidently he did not do this by investigation like he told everyone, but maybe something else went on. He sounded very sure about it that first time he brought it up.

Or he's BO and lying. 

And yes, both Tommy and James Rye have claimed to me to be the same role. Tommy has revealed the results of his supposed abilities to me, but JR hasn't. And of course, I have no idea who actually did what last night.

If I may add something, Det.Tommy's investigation involved Abs., the one who the 2 of us voted on Day 1 under the suspicion of being BO. And James Rye told me his results on Night 1.
And yes, I lied, I didn't investigate James Rye on Night 1, just like you said, I deduced he was townie and proved myself to him that I'm a townie.

[Detective Tommy]

I want to make it clear that conia never claimed to me that he and James Rye were lovers or best friends...He didn't even say he knew JR's role for sure. Just that he deduced JR was town from Night 1. Evidently he did not do this by investigation like he told everyone, but maybe something else went on. He sounded very sure about it that first time he brought it up.

Or he's BO and lying.  :P

And yes, both Tommy and James Rye have claimed to me to be the same role. Tommy has revealed the results of his supposed abilities to me, but JR hasn't. And of course, I have no idea who actually did what last night.

If I may add something, Det.Tommy's investigation involved Abs., the one who the 2 of us voted on Day 1 under the suspicion of being BO. And James Rye told me his results on Night 1.
And yes, I lied, I didn't investigate James Rye on Night 1, just like you said, I deduced he was townie and proved myself to him that I'm a townie.

How did you deduce he was Townie?
and he claimed to be my role... explain THAT.

Why would he tell Pofa that he is (my role)?



I still find it suspicious. I told you Pofa's night action.
And he got intimidated. I don't believe it is a coincidence.


Also, you didn't answer my comeback points from the other post.

[pofa]

Tommy's investigation involved Abs.? I never got that memo.

[Detective Tommy]

Tommy's investigation involved Abs.? I never got that memo.

It doesn't matter, it didn't help.

Okay Conia, if you are telling the truth.
What made you believe James Rye withOUT investigating him?
Unless you're lovers or best friends.

But if you were lovers or best friends, you would know he doesn't have my role.
So when I PM'ed you my role.. you should have figured he was lying.


UNLESS James Rye told you (Conia) and Pofa two different stories.
Which makes him suspicious.

[Conia]

I want to make it clear that conia never claimed to me that he and James Rye were lovers or best friends...He didn't even say he knew JR's role for sure. Just that he deduced JR was town from Night 1. Evidently he did not do this by investigation like he told everyone, but maybe something else went on. He sounded very sure about it that first time he brought it up.

Or he's BO and lying.  :P

And yes, both Tommy and James Rye have claimed to me to be the same role. Tommy has revealed the results of his supposed abilities to me, but JR hasn't. And of course, I have no idea who actually did what last night.

If I may add something, Det.Tommy's investigation involved Abs., the one who the 2 of us voted on Day 1 under the suspicion of being BO. And James Rye told me his results on Night 1.
And yes, I lied, I didn't investigate James Rye on Night 1, just like you said, I deduced he was townie and proved myself to him that I'm a townie.

How did you deduce he was Townie?
and he claimed to be my role... explain THAT.

Why would he tell Pofa that he is (my role)?



I still find it suspicious. I told you Pofa's night action.
And he got intimidated. I don't believe it is a coincidence.


Also, you didn't answer my comeback points from the other post.

Okay, I'll tell my reasoning, but it is obvious you won't believe it.
James Rye, on Night 1, was the detonator of the town to start moving. He didn't held anything for him, just kept posting his thoughts. On Day 1, again he was the one who made the town start moving, espicially with the tape. This is when the BO tried to put blame of suspicious to him, the BO planned to use James Rye as the xpon target: Blame the first one who started to uprise the town. I was waiting for that: Abs. and Holmes were the ones who tried to blame James Rye, that's why I defended James Rye, to try to catch a BO (I focused on Abs. but Beastly kinda ruined my plans) and tried to gain an ally: James Rye.

After that, James Rye started trusting me, and told me his role. Long after that you claimed the same role, which simply pointed you as the prime suspect.

---------
1)You're right, 2 isn't a bunch of people, but even a simple as 2 surpassed the quantity on investigation you can make according to your claimed role, which is obvoiusly false.
2) The player that told me your role is lying indeed, because YOU told me your role
3) Having a proxy connection will take me some time to found one, so I'll look for one after I finish this post.
4) If you knew I could investigate, then why would keep looking for more info? As I said, an exchange of investigations was enough.

[Detective Tommy]

Okay, I'll tell my reasoning, but it is obvious you won't believe it.
James Rye, on Night 1, was the detonator of the town to start moving. He didn't held anything for him, just kept posting his thoughts. On Day 1, again he was the one who made the town start moving, espicially with the tape. This is when the BO tried to put blame of suspicious to him, the BO planned to use James Rye as the xpon target: Blame the first one who started to uprise the town. I was waiting for that: Abs. and Holmes were the ones who tried to blame James Rye, that's why I defended James Rye, to try to catch a BO (I focused on Abs. but Beastly kinda ruined my plans) and tried to gain an ally: James Rye.

After that, James Rye started trusting me, and told me his role. Long after that you claimed the same role, which simply pointed you as the prime suspect.

---------
1)You're right, 2 isn't a bunch of people, but even a simple as 2 surpassed the quantity on investigation you can make according to your claimed role, which is obvoiusly false.
2) The player that told me your role is lying indeed, because YOU told me your role
3) Having a proxy connection will take me some time to found one, so I'll look for one after I finish this post.
4) If you knew I could investigate, then why would keep looking for more info? As I said, an exchange of investigations was enough.

Okay, EVERYONE. I REALLY DON'T CARE AT THIS POINT. HE MADE IT OBVIOUS THAT I'M JAMES BLACK.
"You're right, 2 isn't a bunch of people, but even a simple as 2 surpassed the quantity on investigation you can make according to your claimed role, which is obvoiusly false"

AND MY ROLE IS NOT A FALSE. You have absolutely NO reason to trust James Rye over me.
James Rye told Pofa that he was James Black. Which is obviously a lie.
And he either told Conia a different story, or Conia believes James Rye is James Black over me.

1) No.. I looked for people that I thought were actually TOWN. I trusted you first, because you investigated James Rye and said he was Town. Lying about that is risky, so I believed it. I also trusted Pofa.
2) Basically you are calling me the liar. "The player that told me YOUR role is lying, because YOU told me your role" Well I'm James Black and James Rye is lying.
4) Because, Investigation means nothing. Can Gin not investigate?


So you guys can follow me, James Black and vote Conia and then vote James Rye.
Or you can wait for me and another town to die. And then during the night. = 3 Towns.



Also, I think xpon is BO. He is on the team with a disadvantage.
(BO having an inactive team would be bad compared to us who have like.. 8 or 9)
But maybe the GM knows something we don't and xpon might be a town..

[Akonyl]

well then, if you're claiming james black, I see no reason not to lynch you because if you're telling the truth, you'll die anyway.

[Detective Tommy]

well then, if you're claiming james black, I see no reason not to lynch you because if you're telling the truth, you'll die anyway.

Okay, then let's not let a BO die this round.
Let's just waste another round, while the BO kill another tonight.
And we'll lose.

I told my role because I thought you guys would trust me and vote out Conia.
But whatever, I signed my death warrant.


I would not be shocked, if I found out you are BO later on.

[Akonyl]

well then, if you're claiming james black, I see no reason not to lynch you because if you're telling the truth, you'll die anyway.

Okay, then let's not let a BO die this round.
Let's just waste another round, while the BO kill another tonight.
And we'll lose.

I told my role because I thought you guys would trust me and vote out Conia.
But whatever, I signed my death warrant.

true, however as it stands now, conia and yourself have both confirmed that you and james rye are claiming the same role, so if one's the BO, the other's the town. Honestly I don't know which of you is actually suspect, however it doesn't really matter, as either way if we mess up the lynching we have a guaranteed lynch the next day, and if we succeed in the lynching then if this is all the truth, someone's gettin poisoned.

(gogo run-on sentence)

[Detective Tommy]

well then, if you're claiming james black, I see no reason not to lynch you because if you're telling the truth, you'll die anyway.

Okay, then let's not let a BO die this round.
Let's just waste another round, while the BO kill another tonight.
And we'll lose.

I told my role because I thought you guys would trust me and vote out Conia.
But whatever, I signed my death warrant.

true, however as it stands now, conia and yourself have both confirmed that you and james rye are claiming the same role, so if one's the BO, the other's the town. Honestly I don't know which of you is actually suspect, however it doesn't really matter, as either way if we mess up the lynching we have a guaranteed lynch the next day, and if we succeed in the lynching then if this is all the truth, someone's gettin poisoned.

(gogo run-on sentence)

Fine, let's all vote James Rye. He said he was James Black and lied. Most likely a BO.
If I don't get APTX it's obvious I'm BO.

So don't waste your vote, because you need to kill a BO member.
But it's your choice.

I'm going to vote for James Rye. You should all follow, or else BO will win.
If James Rye turns out to be BO, then Conia will be too...