Mafia Mafia Mafia! Pt. 3! (Game 5: Stalemate - no winner)

[xpon]

But if it is.. you just told me I spent ALL my time going after a target that wasn't a threat?
.....................
And...that sucks.

yup.. just like i only found out that we CANNOT SCREEN CAPTURE Our ID from Sakina-sensei PM.

it ruined my plan and it look likes i DIG my Own Graveyard






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to all people that still alive in mafia round 5 and specialy to GM .... i got a message to you....

WHERE IS MY DEAD BODY ?

[Conia]

But if it is.. you just told me I spent ALL my time going after a target that wasn't a threat?
.....................
And...that sucks.

yup.. just like i only found out that we CANNOT SCREEN CAPTURE Our ID from Sakina-sensei PM.

it ruined my plan and it look likes i DIG my Own Graveyard






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to all people that still alive in mafia round 5 and specialy to GM .... i got a message to you....

WHERE IS MY DEAD BODY ?

Its under your nose.

[xpon]

@conia
no there isn't..... did someone really like my round face.......and decide to make my dead body as a stuffed pillow???

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by reading this tread i got an impression that all players (excep me) is a good poker player.... all of you know how to hid your caard strengh

[Conia]

@conia
no there isn't..... did someone really like my round face.......and decide to make my dead body as a stuffed pillow???

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by reading this tread i got an impression that all players (excep me) is a good poker player.... all of you know how to hid your caard strengh

I like poker

[Callid]

You guys are changing votes like socks O.o" (well good for me :p)

But I dunno if we play into the BO's hands.
Well, like I already told Callid, using the DB role as a camouflage is a good strategy. So I dunno how much I can trust Callids accusation now.
And strangely no one suspects Callid? He said he has a friend, Sonoko. And revealed early, that he's Okiya.
But what if that is all his plan? It's Callid we talk about here. It's possible that he's Bourbon, and his "Sonoko" is another BO. And, since he got the info of a "DB" and he was able to confirm it (how?) it's possible he made up that DB, or another BO pretends to be a DB.

Well, I can't say anything for sure. But so many people suddenly changing targets, although, like Schillok said to me, me being a 50% chance to be a BO is more likely. Also I'm just a pawn (ran) and am supposed to die. But what if TheBlind is a good role?

Well, it's actually not 100% sure my informant is indeed DB. But somewhere around 95%.
I were already about 60-70% sure, due to various hints etc. in the thread, yet I hadn't published or hinted anything about it, when said DB contacted me and said he was said DB. Of course, he also showed the necessary amount of distrust, and he never mentioned the hints I used to conclude that he's DB.
If the BO was indeed trying too fool me, it would be a very, very risky move, as they did not know whether one of the remaining DBs had already contacted me, if I would believe them, and even with this they couldn't avoid that the real DBs would inform me that I've been tricked when I would announce it's a good idea to lynch TheBlind.
Of course, despite the list of reasons above, it could still be done - but it would be a very, very, very risky move with less than a 20% chance of success, and I do not consider the BO doing this more likely than 5%.

[Kleene Onigiri]

@conia
no there isn't..... did someone really like my round face.......and decide to make my dead body as a stuffed pillow???

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by reading this tread i got an impression that all players (excep me) is a good poker player.... all of you know how to hid your caard strengh

I like poker

I like strip poker >D

[Tanner-kun]

@conia
no there isn't..... did someone really like my round face.......and decide to make my dead body as a stuffed pillow???

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by reading this tread i got an impression that all players (excep me) is a good poker player.... all of you know how to hid your caard strengh

I like poker

I like strip poker >D

Texas hold um, here. I once one 20k in a online game.

[Akonyl]

if it turns out my original suspicion of theblind being bourbon is right, I'll be pretty amused.

[Conia]

@conia
no there isn't..... did someone really like my round face.......and decide to make my dead body as a stuffed pillow???

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by reading this tread i got an impression that all players (excep me) is a good poker player.... all of you know how to hid your caard strengh

I like poker

I like strip poker >D

Texas hold um, here. I once one 20k in a online game.

I once gained 15$ in Real Pocker

[Akonyl]

also, to clarify this rule, theblind:

@ TheBlind:
No, due to a ruling by the GM, both townsfolk and lovers can win if nobody is lynched during day. You are screwed, BO!

Wait? Are you saying that if a lynching poll ends in a draw, the game ends and lovers automatically win?
That can't be right.

But if it is.. you just told me I spent ALL my time going after a target that wasn't a threat?
.....................
And...that sucks.

just because a single lynch vote draws doesn't mean that the lovers automatically win, iirc. However, if there's no BO left and the lynch vote is a tie, and it will remain tied for eternity (because people know everyone else's roles and they will keep voting the same way), then the vote is stalemated, and in the event of stalemates, the lovers win if yumi is dead. However, because there's no BO left and everyone left is technically a "townsfolk", then the townies win as well and everyone lives happily ever after.

This requires that the lovers and the town don't betray each other, though, so it's tricky to pull off.

[Kleene Onigiri]

also, to clarify this rule, theblind:

@ TheBlind:
No, due to a ruling by the GM, both townsfolk and lovers can win if nobody is lynched during day. You are screwed, BO!

Wait? Are you saying that if a lynching poll ends in a draw, the game ends and lovers automatically win?
That can't be right.

But if it is.. you just told me I spent ALL my time going after a target that wasn't a threat?
.....................
And...that sucks.

just because a single lynch vote draws doesn't mean that the lovers automatically win, iirc. However, if there's no BO left and the lynch vote is a tie, and it will remain tied for eternity (because people know everyone else's roles and they will keep voting the same way), then the vote is stalemated, and in the event of stalemates, the lovers win if yumi is dead. However, because there's no BO left and everyone left is technically a "townsfolk", then the townies win as well and everyone lives happily ever after.

This requires that the lovers and the town don't betray each other, though, so it's tricky to pull off.

Not sure if you mean that. But you say that if all BO die and there is still a lover pair alive, that the game ends and the town (together with the lovers) win?
I think that's wrong, mr ex-lover ;p Because I think the town needs to kill the lovers or the lovers have to kill everyone else to win. (I'm not sure tho, so let's Sakina tell us how it works?)

[Akonyl]

Not sure if you mean that. But you say that if all BO die and there is still a lover pair alive, that the game ends and the town (together with the lovers) win?
I think that's wrong, mr ex-lover ;p Because I think the town needs to kill the lovers or the lovers have to kill everyone else to win. (I'm not sure tho, so let's Sakina tell us how it works?)

if all the BO die, and there's still lovers, the game continues until either the lovers kill everyone, or they're killed, or the game stalemates. So, if there's two lovers, who both lynch vote for townie A, and there's two townies who both lynch vote for lover A, and they say they're gonna keep doing it, the game stalemates and both the lovers and the town win.

that rule was introduced after the previous game I believe, when I made a suggestion to the lovers win conditions, and iirc that's how it works, but Sakina can feel free to correct me.

[Kleene Onigiri]

Ah ok, nvm then :p I read your post wrong, since it's 4am here ^^"

[Callid]

Ah ok, nvm then :p I read your post wrong, since it's 4am here ^^"

You too? XD
I'm going to sleep now, however...

[Akonyl]

Ah ok, nvm then :p I read your post wrong, since it's 4am here ^^"

go to sleep then, shuu-chan needs his beauty sleep.

and then you can wake up to a dead person.