Mafia Mafia Mafia! Pt. 2! (Game 4: Town wins!)

[Beastly]

I randomly suggest lynching Beastly!

Oh

[Abs.]

I randomly suggest lynching Beastly!

Oh cripes!

Fixed it for you.

[Beastly]

I randomly suggest lynching Beastly!

Oh

Fixed it for you.

What did you fix?

[Akonyl]

sounds like a plan, I had my eyes on him originally anyway.

Also, if there are any other police, I would like to point out that because "Holmes killed Callid" is a valid crime, if you know that anybody else is in the BO, you can now just say "X helped Holmes kill Callid" and manage to arrest them because of the abetting rule. So, if any of you detectives know any police, you could arrest some BO pretty easily without having to know who each individual killed, or what.

[Conia]

sounds like a plan, I had my eyes on him originally anyway.

Also, if there are any other police, I would like to point out that because "Holmes killed Callid" is a valid crime, if you know that anybody else is in the BO, you can now just say "X helped Holmes kill Callid" and manage to arrest them because of the abetting rule. So, if any of you detectives know any police, you could arrest some BO pretty easily without having to know who each individual killed, or what.

Isn't that... almost cheating?

[Commi-Ninja]

sounds like a plan, I had my eyes on him originally anyway.

Also, if there are any other police, I would like to point out that because "Holmes killed Callid" is a valid crime, if you know that anybody else is in the BO, you can now just say "X helped Holmes kill Callid" and manage to arrest them because of the abetting rule. So, if any of you detectives know any police, you could arrest some BO pretty easily without having to know who each individual killed, or what.

Isn't that... almost cheating?

Nearly.  I think he pointed it out, though, in case any other police officers didn't realize what it meant when Holmes was arrested.

[Akonyl]

sounds like a plan, I had my eyes on him originally anyway.

Also, if there are any other police, I would like to point out that because "Holmes killed Callid" is a valid crime, if you know that anybody else is in the BO, you can now just say "X helped Holmes kill Callid" and manage to arrest them because of the abetting rule. So, if any of you detectives know any police, you could arrest some BO pretty easily without having to know who each individual killed, or what.

Isn't that... almost cheating?

It's a rule (at least last I checked with Callid last game)

I mean, usually you wouldn't even get an arrest in a whole game, let alone on Night 2. It's the BO's fault really for choosing a high profile target immediately. Not to mention, one policewoman(Callid) and one detective(you) are dead already, so I don't even really know how many police/detectives are even left.

And yeah, I was basically pointing it out so that any remaining police would know the best way to arrest people now

[Abs.]

I had indeed been wondering why "mangaluva helped Conia in killing Callid" was used as an example, and "abetting a murder" was included.

[TheBlind]

Then your move, Herr TheBlind! Or is this a move that won't happen today?

Now, why would I give the enemy such information, here out in the open?

Something is bothering me though:

Ctu: Beastly
Commi-Ninja: Beastly
Akonyl: Holmes
Kleene Onigiri: Holmes
Holmes: Xcommando
Beastly: Xcommando
Xcommando: TheBlind
Abs.: Laurell
Pofa: Ctu
Conia:
TheBlind:
Bluekaitou1412:
Laurell:

Holmes voting for Xcommando just doesn't seem right.
If Xcommando was B.O. like I claimed, why would Holmes vote for his teammate?

No one suspected him out in the open at the time(I will not let you have all the glory Akonyl!), so he had no need to sell out Xcommando...so why---------*gets hit with Conan lighting*

Ha. I see, that's how it happened. It seems my first plan caught an innocent man and used him as bait to catch two killers, all unbeknown to myself.

Spoiler: The conjecture

On Night one, I claimed Xcommando to be B.O. and unintentionally created the perfect situation for the Black Organization. Not only did I provide a lot of conjecture for Xcommando's guilt, Xcommando already had a reputation of dying early. The whole town was talking about Xcommando's fate, to the point even he started to panic. The Black Organization could not ask for a better situation. The lynching poll would be filled with his name and all they had to do was blend in then turn around to seek my blood when Xcommando turned out to be innocent.
I already had people looking at me for Callid's death, now if Xcommando's death was also tied to me, it would be a clear choice that I had to die, but they miscalculated. They thought they had a perfect plan, if I got killed by the village, my "final report" would be discredited and with that one of the members on that report would escape judgment. But the votes came back and no one died like I alluded to early in the game. Even worse, I did not vote and the towns people split on who they wanted dead...leaving them out in the open, like I said, a victory. By trying to blend in, they actually exposed themselves...Beastly & Holmes.

Though this was a fatal mistake, no one seemed to notice it as the whole town couldn't find a clear cut reason to unite, everyone was a suspect, until Akonyl entered. "When one falls, they ALL fall".

Now, I know what you will ask Beastly:"You can't claim I am B.O. just because I had the same vote as Holmes, can you?"

Tsk Tsk, Yes I can because I have evidence. Evidence I cannot share at the moment but to simplify things:
The Updated Report
Commi-Ninja
Kleene Onigiri
Abs.
Beastly
Bluekaitou1412

Only five members, only five are hidden to me. In other words I figured out the roles of everyone else except these five. Using the poll, Beastly you are the most suspicious and Commi-Ninja is your partner. By voting for you in a poll that was suppose to be the death of Xcommando, he tried to create a cover just in case things took a bad turn...but you guys didn't except such a scenario like the one that did happen.
In the end..you all exposed yourselves to the light.
And I will prove it tomorrow.

[Beastly]

Then your move, Herr TheBlind! Or is this a move that won't happen today?

Now, why would I give the enemy such information, here out in the open?

Something is bothering me though:

Ctu: Beastly
Commi-Ninja: Beastly
Akonyl: Holmes
Kleene Onigiri: Holmes
Holmes: Xcommando
Beastly: Xcommando
Xcommando: TheBlind
Abs.: Laurell
Pofa: Ctu
Conia:
TheBlind:
Bluekaitou1412:
Laurell:

Holmes voting for Xcommando just doesn't seem right.
If Xcommando was B.O. like I claimed, why would Holmes vote for his teammate?

No one suspected him out in the open at the time(I will not let you have all the glory Akonyl!), so he had no need to sell out Xcommando...so why---------*gets hit with Conan lighting*

Ha. I see, that's how it happened. It seems my first plan caught an innocent man and used him as bait to catch two killers, all unbeknown to myself.

Spoiler: The conjecture

On Night one, I claimed Xcommando to be B.O. and unintentionally created the perfect situation for the Black Organization. Not only did I provide a lot of conjecture for Xcommando's guilt, Xcommando already had a reputation of dying early. The whole town was talking about Xcommando's fate, to the point even he started to panic. The Black Organization could not ask for a better situation. The lynching poll would be filled with his name and all they had to do was blend in then turn around to seek my blood when Xcommando turned out to be innocent.
I already had people looking at me for Callid's death, now if Xcommando's death was also tied to me, it would be a clear choice that I had to die, but they miscalculated. They thought they had a perfect plan, if I got killed by the village, my "final report" would be discredited and with that one of the members on that report would escape judgment. But the votes came back and no one died like I alluded to early in the game. Even worse, I did not vote and the towns people split on who they wanted dead...leaving them out in the open, like I said, a victory. By trying to blend in, they actually exposed themselves...Beastly & Holmes.

Though this was a fatal mistake, no one seemed to notice it as the whole town couldn't find a clear cut reason to unite, everyone was a suspect, until Akonyl entered. "When one falls, they ALL fall".

Now, I know what you will ask Beastly:"You can't claim I am B.O. just because I had the same vote as Holmes, can you?"

Tsk Tsk, Yes I can because I have evidence. Evidence I cannot share at the moment but to simplify things:
The Updated Report
Commi-Ninja
Kleene Onigiri
Abs.
Beastly
Bluekaitou1412

Only five members, only five are hidden to me. In other words I figured out the roles of everyone else except these five. Using the poll, Beastly you are the most suspicious and Commi-Ninja is your partner. By voting for you in a poll that was suppose to be the death of Xcommando, he tried to create a cover just in case things took a bad turn...but you guys didn't except such a scenario like the one that did happen.
In the end..you all exposed yourselves to the light.
And I will prove it tomorrow.

I really dont get you. Both of your deduction are contradicting.

First, you said if Holmes voted for Xcommando, isnt that will create a cover too like what you said about Commi-Ninja voting for me.

Then if Commi-Ninja voted for me is it just same for Xcommando if your deduction is true?

But then again, if you want my role kindly PM me. I thought this will not happen again. Since when i PM someone i died. But when i didnt PM someone i didnt die. So yea PM me TheBlindie

[Abs.]

Beastly you are the most suspicious and Commi-Ninja is your partner. By voting for you in a poll that was suppose to be the death of Xcommando, he tried to create a cover just in case things took a bad turn...but you guys didn't except such a scenario like the one that did happen.
In the end..you all exposed yourselves to the light.

Wait!  Hold on there...  If Commi-Ninja is B.O. by virtue of voting for Beastly's lynching, wouldn't Ctu be suspect as well?  I assume the reason you clear Ctu of the same reasoning is because you have some privileged information regarding Ctu?

Nevertheless, your reasoning points in the way of my random suggestion, so I approve!

[CTU]

Beastly you are the most suspicious and Commi-Ninja is your partner. By voting for you in a poll that was suppose to be the death of Xcommando, he tried to create a cover just in case things took a bad turn...but you guys didn't except such a scenario like the one that did happen.
In the end..you all exposed yourselves to the light.

Wait!  Hold on there...  If Commi-Ninja is B.O. by virtue of voting for Beastly's lynching, wouldn't Ctu be suspect as well?  I assume the reason you clear Ctu of the same reasoning is because you have some privileged information regarding Ctu?

Nevertheless, your reasoning points in the way of my random suggestion, so I approve!

tIt was the heat of the moment that got me to pick him to be lynched...finding out Satou was killed was just to much 

[Beastly]

Lol if you want to lynch me go. The Day will past with a townsfolk dying.
But if you want to get my plan, role and whatever Kindly PM me.


Looks like no one listen to me. But whatever. Ill give it a try, i think Mafia dont target me unless i asked too much via PM.

[Akonyl]

sounds like everyone wants to kill Beastly!

sounds goooood to me.

[Callid]

Yay!
My death was avenged!

Also, it's interesting to notice that if the BO kills Satou, right in the next night the murderer is arrested. Obviously killing Satou will outright mobilize and motivate all of the police's forces.
Oh, and it was also the very first arresting at all. As I said: the police should risk a little bit (although 50% is rather good).

And the moral of the story: killing Satou won't bring glory!