ESPIONAGE: Campaign Round - DETECTIVES AND CIVILIANS WIN!

[dumytru]

Oh crap...

*goes back to sleep*

[shinichi'sapprentice]

OK LISTEN UP. TODAY, WE ARREST Stopwatch unless she provide us a very good explanation of what the heck she is doing.

ALSO... this may mean nothing but, I WANT Raifuujin, and Raifuujin alone to post her list!

Civilians, I hope you will trust me on this.

[shinichi'sapprentice]

Should we wish to use the same strategy for this phase, here is the list ready for us to be filled:

Jellitto is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
MoonRaven is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
dumytru is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
Raifuujin is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
MDavid is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
Nemomon is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
shinichi'sapprentice is receiving +4 VOTES from __________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
Fujiwara is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from __________
Stopwatch should NOT receive any votes for this strategy. Please read here for more information.

[Nemomon]

So I would like to mention, especially to Fuji, that I sent to Edogawa the same votes I said I will send in this topic .

[Fujiwara]

ALSO... this may mean nothing but, I WANT Raifuujin, and Raifuujin alone to post her list!

Erm, what? Aren't the lists already obsolete now?
This makes no sense.

So I would like to mention, especially to Fuji, that I sent to Edogawa the same votes I said I will send in this topic .

Duly noted.

As for votes, I'll give +4 to Raifuujin and +1 to dumytru.

[shinichi'sapprentice]

Okay, not the Detective I expected to die. This is bad. Really bad.
I mean, it's good that SA is still among us, of course, but now we don't have a hidden detective among us anymore, so I fear we're close to the end of the rope here.

Also: What the heck, Stopwatch?! You couldn't actually take the time to share your thoughts with us, but you could neatly arrange a tie? How was that helpful?!

So going back through Jecka's posts, she said that her voting choices were based on who she trusts, so I'm inclined to think that she cleared MoonRaven, but of course we can't be sure. (The other people she seems to have cleared are Jd- and Yuri, both deceased.) And it looks like SA didn't manage to clear anyone still alive today either. D:

So IF we assume that MoonRaven was cleared by Jecka, we have SA, Raifuu and MoonRaven as Townies. Leaving 6 possible spies.

Right now, I'd really like to get an explanation from Stopwatch. What exactly are you trying to do here?

Anything else will have to wait for tomorrow, since I'm rather tired...

MY THOUGHTS ON Jecka's Investigation results:

D1: Iwamoto Yuri cleared
D2: Raiden cleared but died that same phase
D3: wasn't able to send anything
D4: killed <.<

i will link it to her posts later

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Jellitto is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
MoonRaven is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
dumytru is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from Fujiwara
Raifuujin is receiving +4 VOTES from Fujiwara and +1 VOTE from ___________
MDavid is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
Nemomon is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
shinichi'sapprentice is receiving +4 VOTES from __________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
Fujiwara is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from __________
Stopwatch should NOT receive any votes for this strategy. Please read here for more information.

[Fujiwara]

MY THOUGHTS ON Jecka's Investigation results:

D1: Iwamoto Yuri cleared
D2: Raiden cleared but died that same phase
D3: wasn't able to send anything
D4: killed <.<

i will link it to her posts later

Ah, right, she likely missed sending anything D3, so MoonRaven wouldn't actually be cleared. That's quite unfortunate. (Whether day 2 was Jd- or Raiden doesn't really matter anyway.)

[Raifuujin]

ALSO... this may mean nothing but, I WANT Raifuujin, and Raifuujin alone to post her list.

Ummm... ok? :V *is a bit confused as to why her list is being asked for as well, but shrugs*

Spoiler:

1. Raiden
2. K11chi
3. dumytru
4. Nemomon
5. Fujiwara
6. Jecka
7. MDavid
8. Jellitto
9. shinichi'sapprentice

And while I'm already here, I guess I'll go ahead and pick +4 for Fuji, +1 for Jellitto, but I'll be around to change votes if needed until four hours before phase change. If Kai doesn't keep me awa- I mean... Hi person who checks for invisi-text :V

[shinichi'sapprentice]

Jellitto is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from Raifuujin
MoonRaven is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
dumytru is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from Fujiwara
Raifuujin is receiving +4 VOTES from Fujiwara and +1 VOTE from ___________
MDavid is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
Nemomon is receiving +4 VOTES from ___________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
shinichi'sapprentice is receiving +4 VOTES from __________ and +1 VOTE from ___________
Fujiwara is receiving +4 VOTES from Raifuujin and +1 VOTE from __________
Stopwatch should NOT receive any votes for this strategy. Please read here for more information.

[shinichi'sapprentice]

@Jd-: No. The majority of our info on who the Spies are come from discussing our reads. This way you would simply be ensuring the Spies get another kill each while we get no info from lynches because you're in control of them. I would really like to hear your motive for this because as it is, I'm definitely not voting you.

At the very least, I want to see who pushes to make sure someone other than themselves is the best lynch.

Hello, Stopwatch. I think we should talk. Once again, you have tried to stop an arrest and were actually successful this time. Do you think we are not watching all this? What in good heavens is going on in your mind? Everyone of us is trying so hard to be able to catch at least one spy to turn things around before we reach the normal lynch voting. Most of us are around and is ready the whole twenty four hours to hear whatever you have to say! But we didn't even get a single explanation!

I quoted one interesting post that you have written above. "The majority of our info on who the Spies are come from discussing our reads." We did this in D4! We discussed among ourselves who we think is most likely the most suspicious among all of us. We had to come to an agreement on who we should put up for an arrest as fast as we could because not all of us is around every hour. I know you know this yourself.

"This way you would simply be ensuring the Spies get another kill each while we get no info from lynches because you're in control of them." This is something you directed at Jd-. Jd- is gone now. And we all know how it all turned out. He was actually an innocent civilian. A very helpful civilian at that. If you were so worried about him controlling the votes as you say, why didn't you step up and took over after he died? I took the initiative to do so because no one was willing to take over or rather, everyone was so lost when he died. Or rather, everyone is living on the other side of the world and I just happened to be the only one awake to get things rolling again as fast as we could. If I have waited for all of them to be around, then it would have been too late as most of the players start getting active after almost twelve hours have already passed. Anyway, even if you were not in control of the votes, then why in the heck do you not tell us if you are so against with our arrest targets? We put so much efforts, others hurrying up from work, others staying up late even if they were so tired with all their homeworks and midterms, just so we can avoid a tie with the arrest that you yourself has been blatantly causing. If you think we should not pursue with the arrest, then why don't you just say so in order for us to think of a better candidate and so we do not have to try so hard to accomplish our goal and then tragically fail just because someone can't even be bothered to explain what they have in mind.

"I would really like to hear your motive for this because as it is, I'm definitely not voting you." I would really like to hear your motive for this because as it is, I'm definitely not voting you.

We are all listening. We may even decide to change the arrest target if you take the time to explain yourself to all of us. I might have other arrest targets in mind right now but if you are going to just STOP it again, then maybe I would just have to deal with you first so we don't have to waste all of our times trying...

[shinichi'sapprentice]

Folks, unfortunately, I will not be around at the last hour of Day 5. Let us hear what Stopwatch has to say. If we do not get anything from her at all, let us pursue with this arrest. Good luck to all of you on Day 6! Do not let anyone who will meddle with this arrest off the hook! If we do not get a spy today, make sure you all read the rules on how the voting works. If I remember correctly, we will have to allocate two votes, one each to the person we wanted OUT. Farewell.

EDIT: *sees Stopwatch online * \o/

[Stopwatch]

See, now, why exactly was SA not killed? It's a rather strange co-incidence, is it not? Maybe the Spies don't trust SA's "investigations" for a reason. Who were they again?

If this lynch persists on me I'll say my stuff, but you're not going to like it.

Players remaining
Jellitto
MoonRaven
dumytru
Raifuujin
MDavid
Nemomon
shinichi'sapprentice
Fujiwara
Stopwatch

Oh, and my point was mainly that I think you're doing this the wrong way. How are we supposed to get info if everyone just goes along with everything? There's needs to be some chaos/conflict or nothing gets even revealed because there's no difference between anyone. You have to see who's pushing for what and the way you guys are doing things, that's simply not happening.

That's not my true motive, but I'm trying to hold off on that for now.

If you think we should not pursue with the arrest, then why don't you just say so in order for us to think of a better candidate and so we do not have to try so hard to accomplish our goal and then tragically fail just because someone can't even be bothered to explain what they have in mind.

It was the way of voting as well as the candidate, but I spoke up against both iirc and you still went ahead. Stop calling it tragic though; it really wasn't.

[Fujiwara]

Sorry, but I don't see how not lynching anyone is helpful, which is exactly what you were ensuring.

Not to mention that it's funny of you to say that we need more discussion, yet you barely say anything.

[shinichi'sapprentice]

I have no idea why I am still alive. Or maybe I have... Do you have an idea?

Oh, and my point was mainly that I think you're doing this the wrong way. How are we supposed to get info if everyone just goes along with everything? There's needs to be some chaos/conflict or nothing gets even revealed because there's no difference between anyone. You have to see who's pushing for what and the way you guys are doing things, that's simply not happening.

Doing it the wrong way? What would be the right way then? As far as I remember, Nemomon's supposed arrest was decided by just not one person. Chaos or conflict you said? Oh, Day 4's last hour was very chaotic for me trying to make sure nobody will tie with Nemomon's vote. Because of what you just did, we didn't even get to know if we got a spy. If you have something in mind, just say it. I tried what I can do. Don't you think it's your turn now

*sneaky post from Fuji

EDIT:

It was the way of voting as well as the candidate, but I spoke up against both iirc and you still went ahead. Stop calling it tragic though; it really wasn't.

I honestly cannot think of a new way on how we should handle the voting. Jd-'s voting strategy seemed to have worked the first time so I just went with it. If I have came up of a new way on how we should handle the voting differently, I would have proposed it a long time ago. But I simply do not have time to think of a new one since deciding on an arrest target takes too much time already. If you have a suggestion on how we should do it, then please do say so!

EDIT2: Also, this... <.< I understand that you may be busy so I will stay around as much as I can so we can have a discussion going on to anyone out there who is around. I may just die anyway so here I am...

[shinichi'sapprentice]

I was going to edit my last post for the third time but might as well start a new one. So, folks! Why don't we create chaos and conflict here just so we can get Stopwatch to talk when she gets time to come back here and discuss things with all of us?

All things aside, we are still dealing with TWO damned spies! If Stopwatch is a spy, then who is the other one? If it is not Stopwatch, then who are these two? I am trying to reread everything just in case I catch something interesting. Even if we arrest Stopwatch, a spy, today, we still have another one lurking around! Let's all discuss and see what we can get! Everyone is all busy but if you get the time, let us all talk. Let's do this.

dumytru, Fujiwara, MoonRaven, Jellitto, Raifuujin, Stopwatch, MDavid, and Nemomon!

Say something y'all! Especially you, Nemomon! You have been given another chance to live. Who is the spy?

EDITx3: MDavid! I see you there! Join the discussion.