Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidden Palace
- Yurikochan
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Re: Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidden Passion (Day 7)
[me=Yurikochan]happily eats the thrown Gummi bears.[/me]

Mafia: The only place where you can find Gin and Akai married together with 8 kids all disguised as Akai. Or something epic like that.
Conia wrote: Why am I thinking a ferret is an experiment from PT to mix the charm of dogs with the evilness of cats? :V

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Re: Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidde
Ohai people, I'm back from my vacations and ready to lynch the rest of the BO \o/
PT, hopelessidiot, Sakina, Kiwi and Stoppy are the confirmed BOs, right? Which means, by the numbers of players, that there's 1 or 2 BOs left.
Let me make it clear:
DON'T TRUST/TALK TO STOPWATCH
I know she's the reason why Gio was poisoned, so don't tell her anything, since it seems people are in contact with her. I'll be back with more info before I'm poisoned today, so prepare your votings!
PT, hopelessidiot, Sakina, Kiwi and Stoppy are the confirmed BOs, right? Which means, by the numbers of players, that there's 1 or 2 BOs left.
Let me make it clear:
DON'T TRUST/TALK TO STOPWATCH
I know she's the reason why Gio was poisoned, so don't tell her anything, since it seems people are in contact with her. I'll be back with more info before I'm poisoned today, so prepare your votings!

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Re: Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidde
Gin-chan! \o/

Mafia: The only place where you can find Gin and Akai married together with 8 kids all disguised as Akai. Or something epic like that.
Conia wrote: Why am I thinking a ferret is an experiment from PT to mix the charm of dogs with the evilness of cats? :V

- Stopwatch
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Re: Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidde
...Conia, I am not BO, as several others can back me up on. Also, the BO most likely have someone who can inv (we know they had Gin earlier who I think can inv...?) and they always have a sniper. It's much more likely that they caught a disc and observed to check which trickster it was. After all, why kill the main person who believed me when I'd only just earned some trust after being stuck in jail :/, I hate not being trusted and being stuck arrested D:.
@Everyone Else: Conia thought I was BO before he left, that seems to be the only reason he thinks it now :x.
@Everyone Else: Conia thought I was BO before he left, that seems to be the only reason he thinks it now :x.
Terry Pratchett wrote: The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
bash7353 wrote:I kind of always assumed that Haneda's parents might've had names.
Spoiler: Box full of stuff

Some year's SS by Abs. 


DCW SS from Anime Girl 4 Eva]

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Re: Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidde
Why not poison Gio? You were busted already so why leave alive a sure APTX? Gio was 100% proven as town too. If anyone(alive) can prove you're Town, then please talk to me.
Onto today's lynching: The suspicious people are AoS, Edo and Abs. (since I'm getting poisoned)
I believe out of those 3 that Edo is the remaining BO, however it isn't solid proof. I hope someone with proof that Edo is townie can speak up, if not, we should lynch him.
(If it needs confirmation: I trust Mystery and Aries are 95% town, and around 60% that IU is town)
EDIT: Edo is most likely town, don't lynch him!
This leaves AoS and Abs. as suspicious... however I have no idea who to lynch
Onto today's lynching: The suspicious people are AoS, Edo and Abs. (since I'm getting poisoned)
I believe out of those 3 that Edo is the remaining BO, however it isn't solid proof. I hope someone with proof that Edo is townie can speak up, if not, we should lynch him.
(If it needs confirmation: I trust Mystery and Aries are 95% town, and around 60% that IU is town)
EDIT: Edo is most likely town, don't lynch him!
This leaves AoS and Abs. as suspicious... however I have no idea who to lynch

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- Stopwatch
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Re: Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidde
Gio trusted me, if I was BO I'd have used that, asked her to disc people I found 'susp', not killed the little influence I had at that point. I wasn't 'quite' busted, as you say
, there were about two others who trusted me, but if I was BO I'd get rid of those who didn't trust me, not the few I could actually 'use'

Terry Pratchett wrote: The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
bash7353 wrote:I kind of always assumed that Haneda's parents might've had names.
Spoiler: Box full of stuff

Some year's SS by Abs. 


DCW SS from Anime Girl 4 Eva]

Thanks, cinna ^^
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Re: Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidde
Gio trusted you? Why did she get a cop to arrest you then?
Only one I found that said you were trusted was Raiden in his will, while back in Day 2 most people were about to lynch you, but you were saved by PT, AFAIK. PT turned out to be BO, so I prefer to believe that people that thought you were BO at first and almost lynched you.


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Re: Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidde
Can we just talk about this on IRC? I can only access the forum through my phone atm so it makes it really hard to give a good defense, also... I like how you totally admitted the parts of your argument I managed to counter-argue on IRC before :x
Also, I don't get the PT bit and Gio having me arrested, mind explaining it to me...? :/
@Everyone else: Can you PM me if you have doubts on my Town-ness now, I can guarantee I'm Town so I'll give whatever evidence you want.
Also, I don't get the PT bit and Gio having me arrested, mind explaining it to me...? :/
@Everyone else: Can you PM me if you have doubts on my Town-ness now, I can guarantee I'm Town so I'll give whatever evidence you want.
Terry Pratchett wrote: The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
bash7353 wrote:I kind of always assumed that Haneda's parents might've had names.
Spoiler: Box full of stuff

Some year's SS by Abs. 


DCW SS from Anime Girl 4 Eva]

Thanks, cinna ^^
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Re: Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidde
Don't PM, say them here, it is why I'm posting here: We need to uncover everything, so let's talk it over here, cleanly, I can quote the IRC parts you want if needed, but it is time the game decides on the BO side or the Town side, that's why I'm giving away all my info now before my death 


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Re: Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidde
The point was, Conia, that I couldn't type very fast on my phone
. Anyway, I've now transferred to my laptop after disc'ing on IRC so I can post a defense up probably, give me twenty minutes 'cause MM's on though

EDIT: Here it is, hopefully it'll answer all your questions, though I lost the logs for most of our conversation (would it be okay for you to post it up here?)
Didn't know about the arrest either, though it confirms me being arrested for tricking people ¬_¬, kinda annoyed she did that after I went round asking if anyone had leaked my action...
And people thinking I was BO at first was because of Lynz CEing me and getting a crime result back, then asking her allies to pass it on iirc. I admit to being a trickster and have to several people since being arrested (only Raiden, Gio and Yuriko before that) so, I'm a trickster, I have crimes, however I have also helped prove quite a few Townies as I pointed out before. You would've lynched Edo if I didn't trigger whatever knowledge you had on him being Town and, at this point of the game, a BO could not afford to do that, especially when they have a perfect set up to get rid of Townie without seeming susp themselves.
Tell me if I've missed anything



EDIT: Here it is, hopefully it'll answer all your questions, though I lost the logs for most of our conversation (would it be okay for you to post it up here?)
I had no idea PT had claimed to save me and don't know how she'd do it anyway, as far as I know (and yeah, I just looked it up again :x) Cover does not work on Day phases and would imply Vermouth-protector anyway, which... is possible actually (though unlikely), but wouldn't explain why PT would mention she'd save someone who seems to be 'BO' when it'd just implicate her if I did end up dead and BO :x.Gio trusted you? Why did she get a cop to arrest you then? Only one I found that said you were trusted was Raiden in his will, while back in Day 2 most people were about to lynch you, but you were saved by PT, AFAIK. PT turned out to be BO, so I prefer to believe that people that thought you were BO at first and almost lynched you.
Didn't know about the arrest either, though it confirms me being arrested for tricking people ¬_¬, kinda annoyed she did that after I went round asking if anyone had leaked my action...

And people thinking I was BO at first was because of Lynz CEing me and getting a crime result back, then asking her allies to pass it on iirc. I admit to being a trickster and have to several people since being arrested (only Raiden, Gio and Yuriko before that) so, I'm a trickster, I have crimes, however I have also helped prove quite a few Townies as I pointed out before. You would've lynched Edo if I didn't trigger whatever knowledge you had on him being Town and, at this point of the game, a BO could not afford to do that, especially when they have a perfect set up to get rid of Townie without seeming susp themselves.
Tell me if I've missed anything

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Terry Pratchett wrote: The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
bash7353 wrote:I kind of always assumed that Haneda's parents might've had names.
Spoiler: Box full of stuff

Some year's SS by Abs. 


DCW SS from Anime Girl 4 Eva]

Thanks, cinna ^^
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Re: Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidden Passion (Day 7)
Anyone here thinks Stoppy is town? 

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Re: Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidde
I...am confused. I thought there were only 4 BO (according to Kir). But considering that now there are more...
Stopwatch, I'm inclined to say that judging by my results and assuming there are >4 BO, I do not trust you. If there is confirmed that there are 4 I might change my mind.
I won't be on until tomorrow, btw, so I'm random-lynching AoS/Abs.
Stopwatch, I'm inclined to say that judging by my results and assuming there are >4 BO, I do not trust you. If there is confirmed that there are 4 I might change my mind.
I won't be on until tomorrow, btw, so I'm random-lynching AoS/Abs.
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Re: Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidde
*cough*Conia wrote: Anyone here thinks Stoppy is town?![]()
I think Stoppy is town! 8-)
Oh... and PT has noting to do with the reason Stoppy wasn't lynched... :-[
IdentityUnknown wrote: I...am confused. I thought there were only 4 BO (according to Kir). But considering that now there are more...
Stopwatch, I'm inclined to say that judging by my results and assuming there are >4 BO, I do not trust you. If there is confirmed that there are 4 I might change my mind.
I won't be on until tomorrow, btw, so I'm random-lynching AoS/Abs.

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Re: Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidde
PT told us she was saving you on day 2 from your lynching and the fact is you were saved when lots of people were lynching you. Calvados couldn't have saved you, but other roles could have (Like was said a week ago: VoR or any kind of Protect). PT turned out to be BO (We investigated her being disguised as Vermouth on Night 3 btw) so why would a BO protect a "townie" if you and her didn't talk enough to anyone trust each other? Even going as far as to asking someone else to stop the lynching?Stopwatch wrote:I had no idea PT had claimed to save me and don't know how she'd do it anyway, as far as I know (and yeah, I just looked it up again :x) Cover does not work on Day phases and would imply Vermouth-protector anyway, which... is possible actually (though unlikely), but wouldn't explain why PT would mention she'd save someone who seems to be 'BO' when it'd just implicate her if I did end up dead and BO :x.Gio trusted you? Why did she get a cop to arrest you then? Only one I found that said you were trusted was Raiden in his will, while back in Day 2 most people were about to lynch you, but you were saved by PT, AFAIK. PT turned out to be BO, so I prefer to believe that people that thought you were BO at first and almost lynched you.
Didn't know about the arrest either, though it confirms me being arrested for tricking people ¬_¬, kinda annoyed she did that after I went round asking if anyone had leaked my action...
And people thinking I was BO at first was because of Lynz CEing me and getting a crime result back, then asking her allies to pass it on iirc. I admit to being a trickster and have to several people since being arrested (only Raiden, Gio and Yuriko before that) so, I'm a trickster, I have crimes, however I have also helped prove quite a few Townies as I pointed out before. You would've lynched Edo if I didn't trigger whatever knowledge you had on him being Town and, at this point of the game, a BO could not afford to do that, especially when they have a perfect set up to get rid of Townie without seeming susp themselves.
Tell me if I've missed anything![]()
Yes, we found crimes on you, you claimed Eisuke at first, but when Yuriko asked you for your role to ID it, you hesitated and asked me if you should tell your true role to her. I told you that you should do so, and claimed Yoko. This is where you whole scheme went down, since Parkur had already ID'd Gio as Yoko on Day 2, meaning you were lying about your role, and even twice.
So, it was you who protected Stoppy on Day 2? :OApprentice of Shiho wrote:*cough*Conia wrote: Anyone here thinks Stoppy is town?![]()
I think Stoppy is town!
Oh... and PT has noting to do with the reason Stoppy wasn't lynched...
IdentityUnknown wrote: I...am confused. I thought there were only 4 BO (according to Kir). But considering that now there are more...
Stopwatch, I'm inclined to say that judging by my results and assuming there are >4 BO, I do not trust you. If there is confirmed that there are 4 I might change my mind.
I won't be on until tomorrow, btw, so I'm random-lynching AoS/Abs.I'm innocent!

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Re: Mafia Round 39: Secret Mysterious Hidden Secret Forbidde
1) Your results? o_OIdentityUnknown wrote: I...am confused. I thought there were only 4 BO (according to Kir). But considering that now there are more...
Stopwatch, I'm inclined to say that judging by my results and assuming there are >4 BO, I do not trust you. If there is confirmed that there are 4 I might change my mind.
I won't be on until tomorrow, btw, so I'm random-lynching AoS/Abs.
2) You can't fake Kir's action with that, even with disguisers, the most logical explanation is that you guys arrested a Townie

I had talked to PT at that point and was thinking she was Town, possibly she had the same idea as when Eve was Eisuke a few rounds agoConia wrote:PT told us she was saving you on day 2 from your lynching and the fact is you were saved when lots of people were lynching you. Calvados couldn't have saved you, but other roles could have (Like was said a week ago: VoR or any kind of Protect). PT turned out to be BO (We investigated her being disguised as Vermouth on Night 3 btw) so why would a BO protect a "townie" if you and her didn't talk enough to anyone trust each other? Even going as far as to asking someone else to stop the lynching?Stopwatch wrote:Spoiler:Spoiler:

True, I really thought at that point she might be Vermouth-Okiya though and... considering you two are generally in contact with each other I was fairly sure you'd be allied and the message'd get onto her so there'd be an incorrect APTX, instead of my real role, I really regretted telling her it in the first place and that was the first thing that came to mind to try and back out in a non susp way, there's a reason I prefer allies to talk me out of this sort of plan (and, yeah, it was irrational, I know, but... it was one of those hunches and it didn't help she refused to tell me her actions or anythingYes, we found crimes on you, you claimed Eisuke at first, but when Yuriko asked you for your role to ID it, you hesitated and asked me if you should tell your true role to her. I told you that you should do so, and claimed Yoko. This is where you whole scheme went down, since Parkur had already ID'd Gio as Yoko on Day 2, meaning you were lying about your role, and even twice.

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Terry Pratchett wrote: The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
bash7353 wrote:I kind of always assumed that Haneda's parents might've had names.
Spoiler: Box full of stuff

Some year's SS by Abs. 


DCW SS from Anime Girl 4 Eva]

Thanks, cinna ^^