Mafia Round 19: Shake Up Christmas

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Re: Mafia Round 19: Shake Up Christmas (Night 4) Phase change Thursday.

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So Blue and Eve were lovers, huh? :-X
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Re: Mafia Round 19: Shake Up Christmas (Day 3) SEND IN LYNCHINGS!

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Akonyl wrote: oh man, I have absolutely no clue who Eve's journal is trying to implicate. :V

Anyway, considering she's the only person named in Eve's will, and the fact that Schillok claimed to be a policeman that did a failed arrest (which nobody else claimed), I'd say it's likely that she's BO anyway, so lynch Kleene on Day 4 I guess, and if Eri's in the game, if she ends up being BO, schillok could be released?

oi oi.
I'm in eves will because she told me her role after I proved my role to her :(

Why she got APTXed? Seriously now... Eve was in contact with other people, named: pofa, conia. Eve also knew that beastly is actually active, so she was probably in contact with him too.
If she told any BO that she can investigate, then it's easy to figure out she's satou. Since Megure is dead. And eve siad xpon is yumi... so there is just shiratori and satou left...

Also, simply observing her would have done the trick too! Since she was the only female police officer left.


Also, Akonyl was suspected by eve too. She told me she didn't suspect him anymore since akonyl claimed a role. But she also said he's not proven yet to be that role.


Another point, the will was a bit censored. So... why isn't it possible that there were other people on the list? Since there are already 2 BO's down, maybe even 3, if hopeless really is BO too. In case there were some BO names on it, maybe DT removed them? :P It also says "people you should suspect" so there should me more on it :V
Btw, eve also told me pofas ability. So pofa-chan, feel free to PM me :P XD
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Re: Mafia Round 19: Shake Up Christmas (Night 4) Phase change Thursday.

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Kleene, observing does not tell the gender anymore. Wasn't it you who did that change in your last game that you GMed?

I don't know about the other players in contact with her, but to me she only claimed that she was a police, not which abilities she had. And considering she had a lover, the BO could not be sure about her being a police (or switching places with her lover) in the first place.

Though... observing her would have told the BO that she was an adult. And it is true, if you believe her being police the number of possible roles is very limited. The other question is: If the police could observe... why didn't they use Chianti to kill Eve during night 2 in the first place when they would have to assume she would be protected?
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Schillok wrote: Kleene, observing does not tell the gender anymore. Wasn't it you who did that change in your last game that you GMed?

I don't know about the other players in contact with her, but to me she only claimed that she was a police, not which abilities she had. And considering she had a lover, the BO could not be sure about her being a police (or switching places with her lover) in the first place.

Though... observing her would have told the BO that she was an adult. And it is true, if you believe her being police the number of possible roles is very limited. The other question is: If the police could observe... why didn't they use Chianti to kill Eve during night 2 in the first place when they would have to assume she would be protected?
Oh yeah, true about the first point :V Forgot about that XD (tho it's an old change... I blame the mold)

But considering you're BO, it's no wonder you say the other stuff :x

Well, first, the BO would have need to have a sniper in the first place. Usually, the BO should have a sniper, but that's not given. Second, she was a lover. So, if she was protected with lovey-dovey, sniping doesn't go through. Maybe the BO didn't use a sniper, since they didn't see it necessary? I dunno.
And I'm not sure what the BO did on night 2, you tell me :)
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I know that I am arrested so that people can't expect me telling the truth. But neither Eve nor xpon told me about their abilities. And probably no one else as well, considering they had to kill xpon during the night and erased his body. But you knew Eves role... and she was APTXed. Now that doesn't mean it was you, but considering that it was you who suggested to get myself (who is not BO, but except for proving myself to xpon and Eve - who are now dead - I can't expect anyone else to trust me) arrested chances of you being BO are very high.
The interrogation by XCommando (who we know is town) which only xpon knew about (who is also town) further supports my suspicion.

Yes again: There is little reason for others to kill myself. All that is known is that there really was an Anokata in the game and that I was arrested for a crime I supposedly did during night 1. I could be BO anyway...
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Schillok wrote: I know that I am arrested so that people can't expect me telling the truth. But neither Eve nor xpon told me about their abilities. And probably no one else as well, considering they had to kill xpon during the night and erased his body. But you knew Eves role... and she was APTXed. Now that doesn't mean it was you, but considering that it was you who suggested to get myself (who is not BO, but except for proving myself to xpon and Eve - who are now dead - I can't expect anyone else to trust me) arrested chances of you being BO are very high.
The interrogation by XCommando (who we know is town) which only xpon knew about (who is also town) further supports my suspicion.

Yes again: There is little reason for others to kill myself. All that is known is that there really was an Anokata in the game and that I was arrested for a crime I supposedly did during night 1. I could be BO anyway...
Well, since you're arrested. And since you "proved yourself to xpon and eve", how did you do that? I guess you should be able to tell us more details in order to get yourself innocent :)
Considering they are yumi and satou, they had to investigate you? So that they are sure you're town.
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Re: Mafia Round 19: Shake Up Christmas (Night 4) Phase chang

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What happened to my will? ::) :P
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Yurikochan wrote: :o :o :o

Oh...my gosh...Ao-niisan! Evil Eve! And Grawww! I had a feeling she would be town, they should have just let her get arrested! :'(

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Re: Mafia Round 19: Shake Up Christmas (Day 3) SEND IN LYNCH

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Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Akonyl wrote: oh man, I have absolutely no clue who Eve's journal is trying to implicate. :V

Anyway, considering she's the only person named in Eve's will, and the fact that Schillok claimed to be a policeman that did a failed arrest (which nobody else claimed), I'd say it's likely that she's BO anyway, so lynch Kleene on Day 4 I guess, and if Eri's in the game, if she ends up being BO, schillok could be released?

oi oi.
I'm in eves will because she told me her role after I proved my role to her :(

Why she got APTXed? Seriously now... Eve was in contact with other people, named: pofa, conia. Eve also knew that beastly is actually active, so she was probably in contact with him too.
If she told any BO that she can investigate, then it's easy to figure out she's satou. Since Megure is dead. And eve siad xpon is yumi... so there is just shiratori and satou left...

Also, simply observing her would have done the trick too! Since she was the only female police officer left.


Also, Akonyl was suspected by eve too. She told me she didn't suspect him anymore since akonyl claimed a role. But she also said he's not proven yet to be that role.


Another point, the will was a bit censored. So... why isn't it possible that there were other people on the list? Since there are already 2 BO's down, maybe even 3, if hopeless really is BO too. In case there were some BO names on it, maybe DT removed them? :P It also says "people you should suspect" so there should me more on it :V
Btw, eve also told me pofas ability. So pofa-chan, feel free to PM me :P XD
If you had really proven yourself that much to Eve, I don't think she would have kept you in her will as a suspect in her death.

She could have also been Nakamori, herself, or perhaps Officer Tome (which would at least allow her to give people true results on "Eve investigates you"), so I don't think APTXes by other people are quite as likely.

observe doesn't give gender info out anymore, in case you forgot, and all police are adults. :P

It's one thing to censor the will to give out a little puzzle of "I wonder whose name has that many vowels in it", but it's another to censor the will to protect a BO when so many townies have already died versus the dead BO. Even in the best case scenario, it's 3 BO vs 6 townies dead, which unless he has a lot less than 1/3 of the game as BO, is relatively balanced, percentage-wise.

If you turn out to be town: Then at the very least, we have at least 2 or 3 confirmed BO down. If you turn out to be BO, then we only have 1 or 2 BO down, plus an additional townie down, which is a very bad situation. So as far as I see it, lynching you on Day 4 seems the safest option.

There's also still the BO result that turned up on you to be considered. Sure, you'll say that you got slandered like you always do, but we can't just go through Mafia saying "you can never trust interrogation results on Kleene, Akonyl, PT, Schillok, etcZ" just because it happens more often than others.
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bluekaitou1412 wrote: What happened to my will? ::) :P
I have a feeling DT will ignore your question here also.... :P

XD lol, It's okay BK, I know your will XD lol
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Meh, he's the GM, he can do whatever he wants xD
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bluekaitou1412 wrote: Meh, he's the GM, he can do whatever he wants xD
True ::)
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Great, Eve told you my ability without asking me. :P

Like Akonyl said, even if everybody else who was in contact with Eve knew she could investigate and believed her/were able to prove it, there would have been more options for her role than just the ones you said. And considering Eve herself told us we should suspect you, I do suspect you more than conia or Beastly atm.  

And yeah, there's also the interrogation result on you from a few days ago.
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Akonyl wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Akonyl wrote: oh man, I have absolutely no clue who Eve's journal is trying to implicate. :V

Anyway, considering she's the only person named in Eve's will, and the fact that Schillok claimed to be a policeman that did a failed arrest (which nobody else claimed), I'd say it's likely that she's BO anyway, so lynch Kleene on Day 4 I guess, and if Eri's in the game, if she ends up being BO, schillok could be released?

oi oi.
I'm in eves will because she told me her role after I proved my role to her :(

Why she got APTXed? Seriously now... Eve was in contact with other people, named: pofa, conia. Eve also knew that beastly is actually active, so she was probably in contact with him too.
If she told any BO that she can investigate, then it's easy to figure out she's satou. Since Megure is dead. And eve siad xpon is yumi... so there is just shiratori and satou left...

Also, simply observing her would have done the trick too! Since she was the only female police officer left.


Also, Akonyl was suspected by eve too. She told me she didn't suspect him anymore since akonyl claimed a role. But she also said he's not proven yet to be that role.


Another point, the will was a bit censored. So... why isn't it possible that there were other people on the list? Since there are already 2 BO's down, maybe even 3, if hopeless really is BO too. In case there were some BO names on it, maybe DT removed them? :P It also says "people you should suspect" so there should me more on it :V
Btw, eve also told me pofas ability. So pofa-chan, feel free to PM me :P XD
If you had really proven yourself that much to Eve, I don't think she would have kept you in her will as a suspect in her death.

She could have also been Nakamori, herself, or perhaps Officer Tome (which would at least allow her to give people true results on "Eve investigates you"), so I don't think APTXes by other people are quite as likely.

observe doesn't give gender info out anymore, in case you forgot, and all police are adults. :P

It's one thing to censor the will to give out a little puzzle of "I wonder whose name has that many vowels in it", but it's another to censor the will to protect a BO when so many townies have already died versus the dead BO. Even in the best case scenario, it's 3 BO vs 6 townies dead, which unless he has a lot less than 1/3 of the game as BO, is relatively balanced, percentage-wise.

If you turn out to be town: Then at the very least, we have at least 2 or 3 confirmed BO down. If you turn out to be BO, then we only have 1 or 2 BO down, plus an additional townie down, which is a very bad situation. So as far as I see it, lynching you on Day 4 seems the safest option.

There's also still the BO result that turned up on you to be considered. Sure, you'll say that you got slandered like you always do, but we can't just go through Mafia saying "you can never trust interrogation results on Kleene, Akonyl, PT, Schillok, etcZ" just because it happens more often than others.
But eve said before in the thread "Kleene is town for sure" while she said "Akonyl is probably town". So I proved myself to her. Just that she got APTXed, probably because the BO made a bet on killing eve.
Obviously since eve was a lover, risking a failed APTX was good enough for them. Either get APTXing right, then the BO would get 2 people or one police that has connections. I think the BO risked it. Considering there weren't so many options left (Shiratori, Nakamori and Satou, in case she revealed her ability). While it would be strange as shiratori to use normal arrests. She asked why nakamori isn't PMing her. So, while still risky, she is likely satou.

So, it's pretty much given that people want to lynch me? Or do you guys actually at least try, to get (maybe another) BO?
I don't think it's good just to bet on me being BO. Even if I would be BO, people should still try to find the actual BO's, or if you don't believe me, the next BO :P
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pofa wrote: Great, Eve told you my ability without asking me. :P

Like Akonyl said, even if everybody else who was in contact with Eve knew she could investigate and believed her/were able to prove it, there would have been more options for her role than just the ones you said. And considering Eve herself told us we should suspect you, I do suspect you more than conia or Beastly atm. 

And yeah, there's also the interrogation result on you from a few days ago.
Déjà-vu incoming XD
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