Mafia Mafia Mafia! Pt. 2! (Game 4: Town wins!)

[Sakina]

Yea, since you died and it was obvious that all your results would be negative, I didn't bother.  You wouldn't be able to tell anyone your results anyway.

[CTU]

Yea, since you died and it was obvious that all your results would be negative, I didn't bother.  You wouldn't be able to tell anyone your results anyway.

So Callid died last night?...well I did not see the post with what happened the first night....did I overlook it?

[Tanner-kun]

page 15 it will have the post.

[TheBlind]

I'm not mafia you just made yourself more suspicious. Plus the mafia able to vote did you forget that the mod post who voted for who if the BO cant vote than the members are a dead giveaway.

Actually I didn't forget because I never knew..
This is my first time playing this game.
So Mafia receives a vote?
I now understand why, but doesn't that make them too powerful?
If the townspeople can't get organized, they could win the lynching just with 3 unanimous votes, essentially getting easy kills.

It's obvious we can't let that happen, so I say we organize and choose the two most suspicious individuals here. We all focus our votes on them and let Ran/Araide/ or someone with a protect or heal ability save whom they see fit. It's better than the alternative, chaos and panic.

Now to explain my actions yesterday:

Spoiler:

I dropped multiple red herrings revolving on the most likely targets, Callid and Akonyl. I knew that the B.O. would try to remove the leadership as quickly as possible and used this for my benefit. I needed one of them to expose themselves, I needed the one that couldn't help to flaunt his evil around. The first to bite was Xcommando.
Though I specifically dropped many herrings on Akonyl's lap, he ignored every single one, even the funny ones that I worked so hard on...*cough*, but Xcommando kept biting. I don't blame him as I keep making each hint more and more attractive for him to show off.

Now with me reeling in Xcommando, Beastly arrived. He quickly noticed the situation his teammate was in and tried to defuse it quickly but it was too late. The only thing he accomplished was exposing himself to Akonyl's eyes. This wasn't part of my plan but I can't complain when a great plan turns into an awesome plan. Now with my two targets on the line I moved on to phase two.

Phase two

Spoiler:

Now, phase two involved me becoming the bait. I was 100% confident that the B.O. would strike at Callid or Akonyl on the first night and set myself up as the fall guy before hand. The catch was that I never provided any incriminating evidence against myself while doing it. Anyone with a pure mind and heart would immediately notice that but once Callid's death was announced....my two beautiful targets came calling for my blood. Within minutes Xcommando and Beastly craved my lynching and fell into my trap perfectly.

Now I know what you are thinking,"Blindsama you are so cooool, KYAAAA!" but that is not the time for that. Now is the time for evidence, Beastly, my evidence gathering tells me that it is unnatural for you to be on during the time Callid's death took place, yet you were one of the first ones to arrive at the scene(only bested by your partner).

Who can you explain this Beastly?
How can you explain this Beastly?!
How can you explain all this conjecture against you?
If you need someone to blame, blame Xcommando, who exposed you.

Final Report:
Four B.O. members
Beastly
Xcommando
Pofa
Conia/Ctu-That Man/Headfigure

[CTU]

I can tell you off the bat that I am not part of the ORG. I have another roll, but I am not ready to pull a ranger just yet

@Xcommando thanks he posted it early...I thought he was late since I did not see page 15 after it filled

[TheBlind]

I can tell you off the bat that I am not part of the ORG. I have another roll, but I am not ready to pull a ranger just yet

Sadly, I have no evidence against you and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
So you may be telling the truth but that is not for me to decided. My target(s) have already been decided..just know this Ctu, once those two fall, it's only a matter of time before the house comes down...but you wouldn't have anything to fear, right buddy.

[CTU]

I can tell you off the bat that I am not part of the ORG. I have another roll, but I am not ready to pull a ranger just yet

Sadly, I have no evidence against you and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
So you may be telling the truth but that is not for me to decided. My target(s) have already been decided..just know this Ctu, once those two fall, it's only a matter of time before the house comes down...but you wouldn't have anything to fear, right buddy.

the only thing I have to fear is the ORG and I am not a important person so I would not be high on there kill list

[Tanner-kun]

What you said was complete BS as you basically saying since these 4 find me suspicious and are actually trying to help the town win lets kill them. come on with what you said up tell now who else would think your BO you have no actual evidence on any of us and If my ally is OK with it i will gladly prove the innocence of 3 of the 4 of your suspects, but beastly Your on your own sorry. Plus if you all think about it whats more likely me being BO for the 3rd time in a row or The blind being BO. Plus if I was BO I wouldn't go out of my way to show your BO because if your not id be the main suspect and get killed look what happend to Callid last game after Holmes was killed and he wasn't BO Callid became the main suspect. why would I do something that stupid and unproductive.

[Akonyl]

Yea, since you died and it was obvious that all your results would be negative, I didn't bother.  You wouldn't be able to tell anyone your results anyway.

So Callid died last night?...well I did not see the post with what happened the first night....did I overlook it?

yeah, just as a tip you may want to bold who dies in your posts, sakina. Makes em easier to get the actual info out of

Edit: Also, TheBlind, I am no longer suspicious of Beastly in Callid's death (although he is not ruled out of being in the BO). I will point my lynch vote in different, more useful directions.

[pofa]

Actually I didn't forget because I never knew..
This is my first time playing this game.
So Mafia receives a vote?
I now understand why, but doesn't that make them too powerful?
If the townspeople can't get organized, they could win the lynching just with 3 unanimous votes, essentially getting easy kills.

That's what I thought, too. When I was looking at previous rounds, I thought I saw that the votes, while posted, were anonymous; i.e., "Akonyl received x votes." That way, you couldn't use the fact that the mafia didn't have votes to find out who they are. Am I just remembering wrong? 

I'm not mafia you just made yourself more suspicious. Plus the mafia able to vote did you forget that the mod post who voted for who if the BO cant vote than the members are a dead giveaway.

Actually I didn't forget because I never knew..
This is my first time playing this game.
So Mafia receives a vote?
I now understand why, but doesn't that make them too powerful?
If the townspeople can't get organized, they could win the lynching just with 3 unanimous votes, essentially getting easy kills.

It's obvious we can't let that happen, so I say we organize and choose the two most suspicious individuals here. We all focus our votes on them and let Ran/Araide/ or someone with a protect or heal ability save whom they see fit. It's better than the alternative, chaos and panic.

Now to explain my actions yesterday:

Spoiler:

I dropped multiple red herrings revolving on the most likely targets, Callid and Akonyl. I knew that the B.O. would try to remove the leadership as quickly as possible and used this for my benefit. I needed one of them to expose themselves, I needed the one that couldn't help to flaunt his evil around. The first to bite was Xcommando.
Though I specifically dropped many herrings on Akonyl's lap, he ignored every single one, even the funny ones that I worked so hard on...*cough*, but Xcommando kept biting. I don't blame him as I keep making each hint more and more attractive for him to show off.

Yeah, but...Xcommando replies to everything. In every thread. Multiple times. Usually with a lot of aggression. The fact that he did so in this thread as well doesn't really prove anything. I still don't trust him, but a better piece of evidence to me is the fact that he keeps saying he's a townsperson in other threads, and making a big deal about the fact that since he's been BO several times, the mod wouldn't have assigned him that role again. It's not damning--he may just be telling the truth over and over because he can't stop posting (addict!)--but nothing's really damning at this point.

As for the rest of it...I understand why you fingered Beastly and Xcommando, even if I don't agree, and you and I have been dancing this dance for a couple of days now, so I guess it had to come to an accusation in my case, but how come Conia/Ctu/Etc? What I mean is, why do you think there are four BO members even if you're not sure who the fourth one is? Has someone dropped a hint to that effect?

[Akonyl]

Am I just remembering wrong? 

In the first game, the votes were anonymous, but that game was before the current roleset/etc/most things in the game now. For example, in the second game, the first lynching:

PlayerVote
Xcommando    -
Holmes    Abs
Sakina    Akonyl
conia    Abs
Ctu    -
Abs    Akonyl
Commi-Ninja    -
bluekaitou1412      -
Beastly    -
Elika12    -
Akonyl    Abs
mangaluva    -

so you get to see who voted who and who didn't vote.

[CTU]

Yea, since you died and it was obvious that all your results would be negative, I didn't bother.  You wouldn't be able to tell anyone your results anyway.

So Callid died last night?...well I did not see the post with what happened the first night....did I overlook it?

yeah, just as a tip you may want to bold who dies in your posts, sakina. Makes em easier to get the actual info out of

Edit: Also, TheBlind, I am no longer suspicious of Beastly in Callid's death (although he is not ruled out of being in the BO). I will point my lynch vote in different, more useful directions.

that and maybe post a link to the page in the first post since because you posted early I missed it

[Tanner-kun]

No we have no way at all of knowing how many BO are in this game but with 14 players we believe 4 BO is the perfect amount I cant argue about that. now if I get I reply to a PM I can prove that a few people are innocent. can you please reply soon its pretty important if you dont reply in a hour i will post it my self. Thank you.

[Sakina]

Actually I didn't forget because I never knew..
This is my first time playing this game.
So Mafia receives a vote?
I now understand why, but doesn't that make them too powerful?
If the townspeople can't get organized, they could win the lynching just with 3 unanimous votes, essentially getting easy kills.

That's what I thought, too. When I was looking at previous rounds, I thought I saw that the votes, while posted, were anonymous; i.e., "Akonyl received x votes." That way, you couldn't use the fact that the mafia didn't have votes to find out who they are. Am I just remembering wrong? 

It was anonymous during the first game but we ended up changing that.  There hasn't seemed to be much of a difference yet.  

Also, no it doesn't make them too powerful.  Remember, the BO are supposed to blend in with the normal people so having them not vote would be a dead giveaway.  And since they're trying to blend in, voting for whoever they want isn't always a good idea.  

[Sakina]

The front page is all updated.  Also, I'm leaving for Relay and I don't know when I'll be back so if you pm me a question you might not get an answer before midnight.  Ciao!