Mafia Round 13 - Unlucky Days in Akonyland (BO wins on Day 1

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PhoenixTears wrote:
Abs. wrote: That being said, does he even really know anyone's role?
I'd be willing to be he at least knows a couple of them. CTU, probably Kaia, maybe a couple others. I think he thinks I'm a role I'm actually not, so I'm curious as to what he'd say about that.
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nomemory wrote: But I can not risk a random vote or no vote, I have to vote.
Why is that?
I would guess that's the 'don't go down without a fight' instinct? I dunno, I'd feel the same way in her position. A last defense sort of thing. If that makes any sense.

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Would love to. I really would. I'll have to think about it.
That part of PT is speaking to me intensively too, but it's such a risk a coward like me can't take :P
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Alright. Let's look at the facts! We are in court here!

So, xpon is lying a lot. About his own role. This isn't actually a bad idea in itself. Because this is confusing the BO if he is town. Or is confusing town when he is BO. So, a good strategy (and I wasted a APTX on him in a previous round because of that)

Another fact. He is leaking information about valuable information that could be usefull for BO. Of course, if he is town, this is bad for the town.
But there are also other people that leak information (*cough* Laurell *cough*) Or xcommando in the last round about the glass fish. And other cases too. Depending on your role, "accidently leaking info" is a strategy. Or sometimes just a mistake *cough* pofa *cough*

So,of course, everyone makes mistakes. I was APTXed by Abs. once too because I told him my role because of a miscalculation ::)
My point, everyone makes mistakes, everyone is trying hard in this game, everyone can get pissed and get mad, everyone is allowed to play, everyone has to improve their strategy and play style. And of course, everyone is having fun here! We all play this for fun! And well, adrenalin is a part of the game too. And lying and tricking people is too. As is trying to get alliances ;)
So, even if people make mistakes, people also make jokes about that. So, don't quit the game just because it wasn't like you planed it to be like! ;D

So, back to the facts.
xpon was supposed to have been cleared as a town by a DB. And he did arrest someone. So, I wouldn't go and vote for him today! (even tho I said that myself before. But new info arrived ;) )

And if it's true that xpon arrests nomemory, voting for nomemory is a good idea too! Since she won't be lynched then! Of course, just if he don't have another lead. And it looks like there isn't one.

So, I would also vote nomemory today, and not xpon.
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Kleene Onigiri wrote: Alright. Let's look at the facts! We are in court here!

So, xpon is lying a lot. About his own role. This isn't actually a bad idea in itself. Because this is confusing the BO if he is town. Or is confusing town when he is BO. So, a good strategy (and I wasted a APTX on him in a previous round because of that)

Another fact. He is leaking information about valuable information that could be usefull for BO. Of course, if he is town, this is bad for the town.
But there are also other people that leak information (*cough* Laurell *cough*) Or xcommando in the last round about the glass fish. And other cases too. Depending on your role, "accidently leaking info" is a strategy. Or sometimes just a mistake *cough* pofa *cough*

So,of course, everyone makes mistakes. I was APTXed by Abs. once too because I told him my role because of a miscalculation ::)
My point, everyone makes mistakes, everyone is trying hard in this game, everyone can get pissed and get mad, everyone is allowed to play, everyone has to improve their strategy and play style. And of course, everyone is having fun here! We all play this for fun! And well, adrenalin is a part of the game too. And lying and tricking people is too. As is trying to get alliances ;)
So, even if people make mistakes, people also make jokes about that. So, don't quit the game just because it wasn't like you planed it to be like! ;D

So, back to the facts.
xpon was supposed to have been cleared as a town by a DB. And he did arrest someone. So, I wouldn't go and vote for him today! (even tho I said that myself before. But new info arrived ;) )

And if it's true that xpon arrests nomemory, voting for nomemory is a good idea too! Since she won't be lynched then! Of course, just if he don't have another lead. And it looks like there isn't one.

So, I would also vote nomemory today, and not xpon.
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Parkur wrote: Image
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Didn't that guy turn out to be
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Abs. wrote:
Parkur wrote: Image
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Didn't that guy turn out to be
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BO
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Or some guy who'll neck cramp... soon  :P
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Abs. wrote:
Parkur wrote: Image
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Didn't that guy turn out to be
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of course, who do you think Bourbon is?  ;D
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As I'm about to fall asleep on the keyboard i will go to bed now. I should be online again an hour before phasechange.
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Parkur wrote:
Abs. wrote:
Parkur wrote: Image
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Didn't that guy turn out to be
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of course, who do you think Bourbon is?  ;D
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But he wouldn't be able to see Akai!  :(
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Abs. wrote:
Parkur wrote:
Abs. wrote:
Parkur wrote: Image
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Didn't that guy turn out to be
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BO
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of course, who do you think Bourbon is?  ;D
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But he wouldn't be able to see Akai!  :(
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that's just what he wants you to think
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Abs. wrote:
Parkur wrote:
Abs. wrote:
Parkur wrote: Image
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Didn't that guy turn out to be
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BO
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of course, who do you think Bourbon is?  ;D
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But he wouldn't be able to see Akai!  :(
Why? The only thing Gogot can't see... ohh... Akai. I get it. Funny. :D


Back to the topic. I think we can agree on not lynching Xpon, right? Despite the trouble he had made for the town, despite likely being a townie himself. Or at least as long as arresting happens before lynching.
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Schillok wrote: Why? The only thing Gogot can't see... ohh... Akai. I get it. Funny. :D
It was too perfect a setup, don't you agree?  :D
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Abs. wrote:
Schillok wrote: Why? The only thing Gogot can't see... ohh... Akai. I get it. Funny. :D
It was too perfect a setup, don't you agree?   :D
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Abs. wrote:
Akonyl wrote: while I noticed that Abs, my question was basically on whether or not "lynching" was an action in the sense of arresting being higher than all other actions, because it's something done by the entire playerbase, and isn't just a skill someone has such as a house arrest, a protection charm, aptx, etc.

but yeah, I was sort of leaning towards arrests happening before lynchings.
Oh LOL wasn't sure if Dus was just putting words in your mouth regarding the whole "not sure/still deciding" thing  :P
dunno how he knew, but yes I was. :P

the weird part of the matter is that while yeah, one would *think* that lynching would just be another action, in the arresting chain it states that "APTX > ... > all other actions", while in the APTX rules it states "Lynching > APTX". So, lynching is explicitly not one of those actions in the "all other actions" field, and thus seems to have no place so I'm not very sure on the whole matter.
Abs. wrote: If xpon is lynched, and does reveal the town roles in his will as he claimed, I doubt Akonyl will post it if he's town.  Of course if he's BO that's a different matter.

That being said, does he even really know anyone's role?
nomemory wrote: But I can not risk a random vote or no vote, I have to vote.
Why is that?
Right. Though I will for the most part not practice any will-editing, if anyone places things in their will solely to spite other players, there's a 90% chance I'll remove it.
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Akonyl wrote: dunno how he knew, but yes I was. :P
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the weird part of the matter is that while yeah, one would *think* that lynching would just be another action, in the arresting chain it states that "APTX > ... > all other actions", while in the APTX rules it states "Lynching > APTX". So, lynching is explicitly not one of those actions in the "all other actions" field, and thus seems to have no place so I'm not very sure on the whole matter.
Could you at least make a preliminary decision for this phase? It would probably influence the decision of many players - that why I made it public in the first place.
If you don't then maybe we should all just send in two alternative votes for the now.
Right. Though I will for the most part not practice any will-editing, if anyone places things in their will solely to spite other players, there's a 90% chance I'll remove it.
I was banking on you to do that anyway.

I just want to state once again that I'm with Kleene on this one.
Even if xpon's behaviour is extremely dangerous for the town right now, if he's really Megure (maybe he was just in contact with Megure) then it would be a shame to have him killed. If we can manage one more round without a death, then that would certainly be a best-case scenario.
Worst-case scenario: Xpon was bullshitting like crazy and because he couldn't the town to lynch nomemory, he's pretending to arrest her. But in reality, she won't get arrested at all and we would inadvertedly kill her.
But that would be one hell of a cunning plan. As cunning as a fox what used to be Professor of Cunning at Oxford University but has moved on, and is now working for the UN at the High Commission of International Cunning Planning.
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Re: Mafia Round 13 - Unlucky Days in Akonyland (Night 2- Ends Wednesday 12am EDT)

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Dus wrote:
the weird part of the matter is that while yeah, one would *think* that lynching would just be another action, in the arresting chain it states that "APTX > ... > all other actions", while in the APTX rules it states "Lynching > APTX". So, lynching is explicitly not one of those actions in the "all other actions" field, and thus seems to have no place so I'm not very sure on the whole matter.
Could you at least make a preliminary decision for this phase? It would probably influence the decision of many players - that why I made it public in the first place.
If you don't then maybe we should all just send in two alternative votes for the now.
I have reached an answer! Huzzah!

Due to the fact that Arresting happens before the use of the Protection Charm, and the fact that the Protection Charm influences the lynch vote (thus protection charm > lynching), Arresting > Lynching.
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