*hugs, hands pic over to you* Be careful with it, and don't let sis or Eric see it!xpon wrote:Yes you are.. and some other .. but i dont want to have Fake friends anymore!!!!KainTheVampire wrote:I'm your friend!xpon wrote: never mind.....i just realize who is my friend, who is my enemies and who is my fake friend..
and i rather have 1.000 enemies, and 1 friend then 10 Fake Friends![]()
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Well Apparently my comments, no matter how similar or exactly alike the others, made xpon criesConia wrote:LOL! Why can't you say that? sorry I have read the last 7 pages in a glimpseEve wrote:This is going to be unexpected butConia wrote: pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff!
Cut the crap xpon! Just freaking play if you want to!
"HUGS CONIA* THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING THAT! <3 I'm not allowed to say that apparently :p![]()




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Give me 1 day.. and i'll gave it back tou you.KainTheVampire wrote:*hugs, hands pic over to you* Be careful with it, and don't let sis or Eric see it!xpon wrote:Yes you are.. and some other .. but i dont want to have Fake friends anymore!!!!KainTheVampire wrote:I'm your friend!xpon wrote: never mind.....i just realize who is my friend, who is my enemies and who is my fake friend..
and i rather have 1.000 enemies, and 1 friend then 10 Fake Friends![]()
i'll go made a copy with this!.. just 1.. but i'll made it as my wallpaper
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Okayxpon wrote:Give me 1 day.. and i'll gave it back tou you.KainTheVampire wrote:*hugs, hands pic over to you* Be careful with it, and don't let sis or Eric see it!xpon wrote:Yes you are.. and some other .. but i dont want to have Fake friends anymore!!!!KainTheVampire wrote:I'm your friend!xpon wrote: never mind.....i just realize who is my friend, who is my enemies and who is my fake friend..
and i rather have 1.000 enemies, and 1 friend then 10 Fake Friends![]()
i'll go made a copy with this!.. just 1.. but i'll made it as my wallpaper


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BTW. can i get a hug!. just normal hug.. not the one with bitting and clawing!
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damn right i amxpon wrote:you are my enemy !! but i dont mind..because you are honest!Parkur wrote:^ thisEve wrote:xpon wrote: never mind.....i just realize who is my friend, who is my enemies and who is my fake friend..
and i rather have 1.000 enemies, and 1 friend then 10 Fake Friendsgood for you
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Parkur wrote:damn right i amxpon wrote:you are my enemy !! but i dont mind..because you are honest!Parkur wrote:^ thisEve wrote:xpon wrote: never mind.....i just realize who is my friend, who is my enemies and who is my fake friend..
and i rather have 1.000 enemies, and 1 friend then 10 Fake Friendsgood for you
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*hug* <3xpon wrote: BTW. can i get a hug!. just normal hug.. not the one with bitting and clawing!


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Looks like I have to defend my PO...Detective Tommy wrote:Yeah, it really was a unpredicted strike back.Eve wrote:Detective Tommy wrote:Definitely. And I think it was worse because the BO's PO actually had things relating to betraying eachother.Eve wrote: LOL, nope, I knew but didn't tell anyone, why you've lost was b/c of POs mainlyCompare the POs and you'll know what I mean
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So I suspect that Pofa was trying to betray Akemi (me) and Vermouth (Sebolains) because we were likely to betray her.
And the town has better alliances due to their PO.
So that was pretty... a big downfall.![]()
hence the title, but if I keep on repeating this, Schillok will kill me with his bare hands *Runs away*
lol
I wonder if we would have won without the PO's.
First, I admit that the BO ones could have been better. It became evident that they were not as much fun for you as I hoped it would. Mistakes happen, though. Especially when rying something for the first time.
You lost the game because the town did not have a single misslynch and lynched one of you each day, starting with day 2. This is why you lost. If the town does that, the BO has no chance, obviously.
So to answer if you would have won without POs: Definitely not.
Sure, there was some luck involved for the town to be able to form alliances so quickly (due to character actions, not PO). There was also a bit of bad luck involved for the BO - such as claiming roles right in front of the Detective Boys. But the game would have gone pretty much the same for town.
I am not sure how much not being able to talk about your PO did screw up the BO. Still you could have played normally and considered your tasks a "bonus". Again, I admit they could have needed some more work.
Now, I could just claim that PO did not do that much for the town, so let's take a better look on each of them:
Spoiler: 03. Conia (Shiratori)
Spoiler: 20. delsie29 (Satô)
No advantage in this POs.
Spoiler: 04. Kleene Onigiri (Mitsuhiko)
Spoiler: 06. PhoenixTears (Ayumi)
In the game they identified Haibara with it. However at that time they also checked "Dus is Haibara", so there was absolutely no advantage in this task in the game.
Spoiler: 08. Abs. (James)
The result of this task: The trap failed, because the BO killed someone else. Influence on the game: none.
Spoiler: 22. Kaia (Kazuha)
Spoiler: 25. Parkur (Makoto)
Tasked failed and prevented parkur from protecting for 2 phases. In turn he at least knew there was a Sonoko in the game.
Still, it seems more like an disadvantage to trade this information for 2 phases of "suspension".
Spoiler: 26. Crap4869 (Asami)
More like a running gag than an actual task.

Was not arrested in the game. So... the task was never completed. And considering the real Eisuke was also in the game, getting out of jail with this method seemed unreliable.
Spoiler: 27. Xcommando (Yukiko)
Yukiko got killed right during her first performance as Shinichi. So she had never a chance to complete her PO. No influence on the game at all.
Spoiler: 28. Paix672 (Yumi)
I remember there were discussions about giving Yumi the same number of investigations as other police. Well, here was my answer to that.
The task finished... but during the same night Paix became injured so he was never able to use the additional investigation.
Now, that you have seen how all POs of the town performed in the game... who still thinks that the BO lost because of them?

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As a BO from the last game I don't think the problem was with the POs and it's definitely not the reason we lost. Beastly supposedly didn't receive our pms, though I don't know if it's because after day 6 Pofa and I were just pming each other since we thought Beastly had betrayed us. We both contacted him. The BO po's actually tore the BO apart this game, mainly Pofa was looking for a traitor...or whatever. And didn't trust us. I'll admit I failed mine since I gave it to Pofa, not the GM pm, but what I read, though I totally read it wrong and thought I only had three days to do it. I was sick, give me a break. But I think the BO needs something a bit different, with just detect I could tell who was in the game yes, but it doesn't do much else, though that's getting looked into in the mafia thread anyways. ^^ I would like to play with POs again honestly, but the BO's need either to be able to share thier's or the town can't share theirs. I think is what it best comes down too honestly.Schillok wrote: Now, that you have seen how all POs of the town performed in the game... who still thinks that the BO lost because of them?
Thank you Schillok for trying it out. That was a very weak BO mixture though.

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Ah, so it was Parkur who was actually looking for Sonoko! 
Two of the town POs negatively affected the BO:
THE SINGLE MOST DEBILITATING THING for the BO group in any round is this:
Lack of communication
- invariably, at least one BO will "disappear" or not be around close enough to the phase change to change their action
In this round, it seemed it may have been more pronounced because 1) Beastly, and 2) BO might not have trusted each other enough (due to PO confusion) to give control of their actions to another BO player that would be online close to phase change.

Two of the town POs negatively affected the BO:
- CTU didn't actually die - waste of a night kill
- James Rye didn't actually die - waste of an APTX
THE SINGLE MOST DEBILITATING THING for the BO group in any round is this:
Lack of communication
- invariably, at least one BO will "disappear" or not be around close enough to the phase change to change their action
In this round, it seemed it may have been more pronounced because 1) Beastly, and 2) BO might not have trusted each other enough (due to PO confusion) to give control of their actions to another BO player that would be online close to phase change.
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The alliance still would've found them.... 


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Thank you for not lynching Conia.KainTheVampire wrote: The alliance still would've found them....![]()

I agree with Abs. but Sebs did the same thing too. Maybe the next time we have POs, Anokata/mafia leader could get the list like he hands them out or something, and only those two can know if you want to keep it a secret. Tommy did some odd things too so you know.Abs. wrote: Ah, so it was Parkur who was actually looking for Sonoko!
Two of the town POs negatively affected the BO:But the BO would have had a hard time winning the round, even without POs. Without POs, the police would not have gotten injured and would have been able to make arrests.
- CTU didn't actually die - waste of a night kill
- James Rye didn't actually die - waste of an APTX
THE SINGLE MOST DEBILITATING THING for the BO group in any round is this:
Lack of communication
- invariably, at least one BO will "disappear" or not be around close enough to the phase change to change their action
In this round, it seemed it may have been more pronounced because 1) Beastly, and 2) BO might not have trusted each other enough (due to PO confusion) to give control of their actions to another BO player that would be online close to phase change.
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well we are not trust each other.. and i was the one who discover that townie can talk about their PO in open.
i must forge a fake ones.. and yell at my teammates about this.
the PO is not bad. heck i am great.. 5 injured peorson!!! yay! but the part of we cant talk to others bo is the hard way.
i must forge a fake ones.. and yell at my teammates about this.
the PO is not bad. heck i am great.. 5 injured peorson!!! yay! but the part of we cant talk to others bo is the hard way.
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I also don't think the BO lost because of the POs. Since the town knew there are lovers, we also had thought some people could be BO/town lovers. That's why some people still mistrusted others ;P
And since the BO had beastly in it, with or without the PO, the BO would have thought they have a traitor in their ranks anyway
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And since the BO had beastly in it, with or without the PO, the BO would have thought they have a traitor in their ranks anyway

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