Mafia Round 12 - Bear Round! (Day Five...??)

[Callid]

Well, is there any decision on whom we lynch now? Cause it's 1:50 here, and we should reach a final decision before I - along with Schillok, Kleene and James Rye - go to sleep, and if we want to discuss alternatives, we should do it now. Otherwise, we might even get a tie, which is clearly not in the interest of the town.

[Kleene Onigiri]

I usually contact Schillok early or Schillok contacts me instead D: Hoping he doesn't die early. Same with contacting Akonyl early ;p

so it's one of those pre-game alliance things eh?

and sure, you usually contact me (or me you), but I never actually end up telling you anything most of the time. :V

no, not pre-game ally. I'm not someone who does that. I just choose some people to contact with. But in the last games more people contact me first too. So yeah ;p

And you never tell me anything yep, but you also were DB 3x in a  row ;p And didn't survive long enough to try to trust someone too

I question what the difference is between "always contacting the same person night 1" and pre-game allies.

and there is that, but I wouldn't have told you much anyway.

Huh? I didn't contact schillok every round. Sometimes I did myself. Sometimes Schillok contacted me. Sometimes we weren't in contact at all. Sometimes it was night 1 or another phase.

You tend to jump into conclusions a lot this round, my dear akonyl D:

[Grawwbear]

Please ignore the 10 minute delay. The unfortunate unforeseen circumstance was diverted. Carry on.

By the way, Rohoph, your new avatar is awesome.

Someone appreciates my cow! D:

[pofa]

I hate random lynching.

@the dream: I don't like ties, and I don't like the confusion that comes from having multiple targets. But since it looks like people are starting to suspect me for not letting out the BO info, and since I'm not getting responses from some people, and since it's true that another player may have info that would help, and since we don't have any concrete evidence on Schillok:

There are a couple of people who had sort of suspicious actions--they could be town or BO, depending on interpretation. If I reveal those names, and they are not both BO, I believe it will give the BO an APTX target for sure. One of those people MAY have the true fact if he/she is not lying to me and if my interpretation is correct. I'm currently working on clearing that up.

Two people had actions in the dream that were clearly suspicious. Those people are conia and Akonyl.

The dream took place at a party. conia was spying on someone. Akonyl erased something from out of a notebook. The words "spying" and "erased" were bolded.

So, there's that.  :P Sorry, Akonyl and conia, if you're town. I still don't know who I'm voting for.

[Akonyl]

I usually contact Schillok early or Schillok contacts me instead D: Hoping he doesn't die early. Same with contacting Akonyl early ;p

so it's one of those pre-game alliance things eh?

and sure, you usually contact me (or me you), but I never actually end up telling you anything most of the time. :V

no, not pre-game ally. I'm not someone who does that. I just choose some people to contact with. But in the last games more people contact me first too. So yeah ;p

And you never tell me anything yep, but you also were DB 3x in a  row ;p And didn't survive long enough to try to trust someone too

I question what the difference is between "always contacting the same person night 1" and pre-game allies.

and there is that, but I wouldn't have told you much anyway.

Huh? I didn't contact schillok every round. Sometimes I did myself. Sometimes Schillok contacted me. Sometimes we weren't in contact at all. Sometimes it was night 1 or another phase.

You tend to jump into conclusions a lot this round, my dear akonyl D:

I took the "usually" to mean that, but I guess it isn't every game then.

And yes, I tend to jump to conclusions when I'm not too dead to jump.

[TheBlind]

And now, the only thing you do is say "You'll regret it if you kill me.", and you even try to frighten me that I might be killed if you're town. As if I didn't know! You only don't want to admit that you don't have evidence, cause there couldn't be any to begin with, you don't want to admit that you don't have allies, cause the BO didn't want you to be the one to get in contact with the town,

How would you know that any of that?
Also, you messed up in your sentence. You stated I don't have allies but them accused me of being B.O.
Those two contradict each other unless you know for a certainty that I'm not evil. Which is true, I'm not evil.

As for the rest of your tantrum, yeah why would I give you free information that you can calculate against?
Why would I give you information in such a public setting for that matter?
"Oh nooes! They arez accusing teh mez! herez B.O. lookz all thiz informationz- TheBlind
It's such a transparent fishing move.

I must be annoying you. .
You tried the same thing earlier by setting up a bait for me to post the full message Khink sent me.
If you wanted to know it, why not approach me in private or just come out and say you want to know?
Silly Callid.

and you didn't react at first at all, because you hoped it would be ignored!

I don't understand what you mean by this. I replied to your statement as soon as I saw it.

You want to get out of it the cheap way, without any of the above, just with a few "wise quotes", trying to act supersmart! I didn't  forget that the one who gave me the idea to keep track of suspicious actions were yourself, and it DID work!

Yeah, "act supersmart".......yep, you don't know me very well.
As for the other: I don't want to get out of anything. If the town tries to lynch me, I won't be angry, they just made a mistake and they move on, it's how you play the game. I just hope they fully believe me to be the most suspicious of everyone here, if that is the case, then I can't fault them. I also won't be angry at the B.O. when they laugh at me if it does happen...

Because I know the remaining townspeople are intelligent enough to win this game and pull a fast one on a B.O. team that believes they can win this thing easy because they happen to have "supersmart!" people on their side that love to plan for everything while forgetting something very important.

It's a game, you play it like one, and it's humans(most that is ) playing said game.

Wait, Kleene, you didn't contact me on Night 1!
You do think I'm just a insane person that is going to be a liability!
*Runs away crying*

[TheBlind]

I hate random lynching.

@the dream: I don't like ties, and I don't like the confusion that comes from having multiple targets. But since it looks like people are starting to suspect me for not letting out the BO info, and since I'm not getting responses from some people, and since it's true that another player may have info that would help, and since we don't have any concrete evidence on Schillok:

There are a couple of people who had sort of suspicious actions--they could be town or BO, depending on interpretation. If I reveal those names, and they are not both BO, I believe it will give the BO an APTX target for sure. One of those people MAY have the true fact if he/she is not lying to me and if my interpretation is correct. I'm currently working on clearing that up.

Two people had actions in the dream that were clearly suspicious. Those people are conia and Akonyl.

The dream took place at a party. conia was spying on someone. Akonyl erased something from out of a notebook. The words "spying" and "erased" were bolded.

So, there's that.  Sorry, Akonyl and conia, if you're town. I still don't know who I'm voting for.

Akonyl could be Pisco.
Notebook= Will
Tearing= Pisco's Erasing ability.

Conia, I'm not sure about.

Alright! Things are getting interesting. .

[pofa]

I hate random lynching.

@the dream: I don't like ties, and I don't like the confusion that comes from having multiple targets. But since it looks like people are starting to suspect me for not letting out the BO info, and since I'm not getting responses from some people, and since it's true that another player may have info that would help, and since we don't have any concrete evidence on Schillok:

There are a couple of people who had sort of suspicious actions--they could be town or BO, depending on interpretation. If I reveal those names, and they are not both BO, I believe it will give the BO an APTX target for sure. One of those people MAY have the true fact if he/she is not lying to me and if my interpretation is correct. I'm currently working on clearing that up.

Two people had actions in the dream that were clearly suspicious. Those people are conia and Akonyl.

The dream took place at a party. conia was spying on someone. Akonyl erased something from out of a notebook. The words "spying" and "erased" were bolded.

So, there's that.  Sorry, Akonyl and conia, if you're town. I still don't know who I'm voting for.

Akonyl could be Pisco.
Notebook= Will
Tearing= Pisco's Erasing ability.

Conia, I'm not sure about.

Alright! Things are getting interesting. .

"Tearing?"

PhoenixTears brought up Rohoph's possible clue earlier, where the body was missing from the gallows. But that doesn't mean Pisco is Akonyl, even if he's in the game. And both of those roles (Pisco and Irish) can be detected with interrogation (barring slander) or Ai. Or the DBs. So we should know about them soon.

Tbh, I'm still thinking about lynching Schillok, as his role would be the biggest pain to find out. But it will suck the worst if all three of them are town.

[Kleene Onigiri]

@TheBlind: How should I contact you when you contacted me first with a "hi!" on night 1? D:


Erasing= Pisco
Spying = Irish


@pofa: I'm against lynching schillok

my ranking list (lol):

TheBlind > Akonyl >>> Schillok

[TheBlind]

I hate random lynching.

@the dream: I don't like ties, and I don't like the confusion that comes from having multiple targets. But since it looks like people are starting to suspect me for not letting out the BO info, and since I'm not getting responses from some people, and since it's true that another player may have info that would help, and since we don't have any concrete evidence on Schillok:

There are a couple of people who had sort of suspicious actions--they could be town or BO, depending on interpretation. If I reveal those names, and they are not both BO, I believe it will give the BO an APTX target for sure. One of those people MAY have the true fact if he/she is not lying to me and if my interpretation is correct. I'm currently working on clearing that up.

Two people had actions in the dream that were clearly suspicious. Those people are conia and Akonyl.

The dream took place at a party. conia was spying on someone. Akonyl erased something from out of a notebook. The words "spying" and "erased" were bolded.

So, there's that.  Sorry, Akonyl and conia, if you're town. I still don't know who I'm voting for.

Akonyl could be Pisco.
Notebook= Will
Tearing= Pisco's Erasing ability.

Conia, I'm not sure about.

Alright! Things are getting interesting. .

"Tearing?"

PhoenixTears brought up Rohoph's possible clue earlier, where the body was missing from the gallows. But that doesn't mean Pisco is Akonyl, even if he's in the game.

"Akonyl erased something from out of a notebook."
I visualized that as Akonyl tearing a page out because that seemed more logical than erasing it.
The way I understood the dream you posted was that Akonyl was trying to hide information and only Pisco could do that.

@TheBlind: How should I contact you when you contacted me first with a "hi!" on night 1? D:


Erasing= Pisco
Spying = Irish


@pofa: I'm against lynching schillok



my ranking list (lol):

TheBlind > Akonyl >>> Schillok

[Akonyl]

my ranking list (lol):

TheBlind > Akonyl >>> Schillok

D:

aside from the fact that I won't just cough up my role to you, I'm wondering why you're just pointing me out and not conia. As, as sweet as getting lynched would be, I'm definitely not pisco and any DB (who I'm guessing are in the game because I can't recall them having not been in a game since they were made) can show that.

[Callid]

And now, the only thing you do is say "You'll regret it if you kill me.", and you even try to frighten me that I might be killed if you're town. As if I didn't know! You only don't want to admit that you don't have evidence, cause there couldn't be any to begin with, you don't want to admit that you don't have allies, cause the BO didn't want you to be the one to get in contact with the town,

How would you know that any of that?
Also, you messed up in your sentence. You stated I don't have allies but them accused me of being B.O.
Those two contradict each other unless you know for a certainty that I'm not evil. Which is true, I'm not evil.

Well, it's pretty clear that your fellow BOs can't defend you. After all, if one of you is ever killed, the others will immediately become suspects. So, with allies, I meant "town allies". It's pretty clear that you're allied with the rest of the BO (which is also the reason you didn't try to join any alliance).

As for the rest of your tantrum, yeah why would I give you free information that you can calculate against?
Why would I give you information in such a public setting for that matter?
"Oh nooes! They arez accusing teh mez! herez B.O. lookz all thiz informationz- TheBlind
It's such a transparent fishing move.

Nope. As I said, you didn't point out that you had any allies. You didn't have to say something like "Callid is my allied and can confirm..." but "I have allies who can...". Of course, that's no proof, but THAT could have followed in private. And of course, accordingly, "There is someone who did" instead of "Callid did...".

I must be annoying you. .

That makes one very true thing in your post.

You tried the same thing earlier by setting up a bait for me to post the full message Khink sent me.
If you wanted to know it, why not approach me in private or just come out and say you want to know?
Silly Callid.

Nope, I didn't want you to quote the message, I only wondered why you didn't say more clearly what Khinkun stated about a unicorn, such like "He said that there are players who claim to have an unicorn" or something similar. "Something about a unicorn sounds as if you didn't know anything about the unicorn-thing, so you only made a vague reference to it, so that your fine no matter how it turns out.

and you didn't react at first at all, because you hoped it would be ignored!

I don't understand what you mean by this. I replied to your statement as soon as I saw it.

You should note that there is a post of yours right after mine. Which DOES ignore my post.

You want to get out of it the cheap way, without any of the above, just with a few "wise quotes", trying to act supersmart! I didn't  forget that the one who gave me the idea to keep track of suspicious actions were yourself, and it DID work!

Yeah, "act supersmart".......yep, you don't know me very well.

I was making a reference to your first Mafia round, where you did surprise everyone with an awesome deduction. Duh.

As for the other: I don't want to get out of anything. If the town tries to lynch me, I won't be angry, they just made a mistake and they move on, it's how you play the game. I just hope they fully believe me to be the most suspicious of everyone here, if that is the case, then I can't fault them. I also won't be angry at the B.O. when they laugh at me if it does happen...

Because I know the remaining townspeople are intelligent enough to win this game and pull a fast one on a B.O. team that believes they can win this thing easy because they happen to have "supersmart!" people on their side that love to plan for everything while forgetting something very important.

It's a game, you play it like one, and it's humans(most that is ) playing said game.

Well spoken, BO. Sounds quite nice. Yet, sadly, anything of these can be easily said by a BO. Probably I would say something similar (or, on second thought, rather not) if I were BO and were accused without having any ace up my sleeve.

Oh, and I do wonder why you suddenly accuse me of being BO, especially in such a sneaky manner. Could it perhaps be you lack any evidence, solid or not?

You do think I'm just a insane person that is going to be a liability!

If you should turn out to be town, despite all the things I listed already, I'm convinced of that.

[pofa]

@TheBlind: The word used was "erasing." And it was bolded. So yes, I think it's pretty clear it's pointing toward Pisco. I just wondered where you got the word "tearing," since I didn't use it.

Yeah, if there are DBs, it would be helpful for them to check either Akonyl or conia. And then, like Schillok himself suggested, either Ai follows him or an investigator can see if he's in disguise as a police role. I guess we'd have to wait on checking Anokata.

[Kleene Onigiri]

my ranking list (lol):

TheBlind > Akonyl >>> Schillok

D:

aside from the fact that I won't just cough up my role to you, I'm wondering why you're just pointing me out and not conia. As, as sweet as getting lynched would be, I'm definitely not pisco and any DB (who I'm guessing are in the game because I can't recall them having not been in a game since they were made) can show that.

I dunno anything about conia. But if you wish:

TheBlind > Akonyl > conia >>> schillok

And yeah, you didn't reveal anything. Which is good and you're not suspected because of that.

But you still tried to make schillok a lyching target even agter I PMed you that I investigated him on night 1 (which was also before callid posted and schillok posting being police)

But you simply "ignored" all that and even tried to make schillok suspicious after even callid got some infos on schillok. You didn't even said anything about me PMing you about that info.
And now you're even a suspect in a dream :p


And how hard is it to prove a disguise? We can investigate the 4 possible police roles left that you can disguise as: Chiba, shiratori, satou, takagi

Or simply interrogate schillok and check if he get's slandered or slanders himself.

[Akonyl]

You tried the same thing earlier by setting up a bait for me to post the full message Khink sent me.
If you wanted to know it, why not approach me in private or just come out and say you want to know?
Silly Callid.

Nope, I didn't want you to quote the message, I only wondered why you didn't say more clearly what Khinkun stated about a unicorn, such like "He said that there are players who claim to have an unicorn" or something similar. "Something about a unicorn sounds as if you didn't know anything about the unicorn-thing, so you only made a vague reference to it, so that your fine no matter how it turns out.

you know, I find it incredibly hilarious that the unicorn is still being brought up.

I dunno anything about conia. But if you wish:

TheBlind > Akonyl > conia >>> schillok

you're right, I still don't like it. D:

And yeah, you didn't reveal anything. Which is good and you're not suspected because of that.

But you still tried to make schillok a lyching target even agter I PMed you that I investigated him on night 1 (which was also before callid posted and schillok posting being police)

But you simply "ignored" all that and even tried to make schillok suspicious after even callid got some infos on schillok. You didn't even said anything about me PMing you about that info.
And now you're even a suspect in a dream :p

I question how many times I'm going to have to repeat myself on this.