Mafia Round 16 - Yarrharr~ (BO wins!)

[pofa]

i am not adding the PO.. but i want to have the same excitement from when that round is introduced!!!

so anyone want to be the GM?

You.

I think Tommy said something about it too, but he might still not have time.

[Dus]

They did make things interesting. But that was a big game, too, and the town won very quickly, which is the thing Schillok himself seems to be arguing against here.

But I seriously doubt the POs had all that much to do with it. It was mostly the lucky circumstance that we had a 100% trust alliance of six very early on (3 DBs, two town lovers, and Ai) and managed to get more people without having to risk accidentally including BO. And there weren't many BOs either iirc.

You can't add the POs when they're clearly connected to certain characters. And having less information should make things more interesting. Unfortunately, the BO's POs weren't quite as useful as the town ones.

[Conia]

Well, I have to calm down. This game felt so... unsatisfying. Frustrating.

I kinda feel the same way for some reason...

PT's long-townie-streak paid off in this round eh?

Yep. Everybody trusted me. Except Abs. Even Conia freaking told me he was a protector on Night 2! DX

It is hard to be trusted as a protector, even if investigated, people can just acuse of using the BS until you correctly protect someone. I risked being honest with you, but my big aim was protecting some town fast and stay abroad watching how everything developed. Too late for regrets I guess

@ PT I don't know from what I've learn in round 15, Conia tends to trust PT and Yurikochan a lot wonder why

Wrong, I should say. This is the first time I allied with PT, even when we were both town she was suspicious of me. I didn't trust Yuriko too much because she was too open with her role, plus suddenly Camel dies on Night 2, difficulting the process of identifing her as a DB. As proof, Yuriko didn't know my ability.

The big thing here though is that the BO wasn't as over-powered as you seem to think. It only looks that way because of who had the roles, not what roles they were. You guys had a good set of roles to work with, it's just a matter of people being more active than they were and/or sharing more info with the right people. Like I said before, it was mostly bad luck.

Gotta agree with this.

*cries* O...okay. I deserved that.

You cold blood murderer!


Also, I had some crazy ideas for GMing another Round, but it is far from being ready plus I don't think I have enough time to GM. Just write me down for GMing in Dcemeber

[Dus]

Also, I had some crazy ideas for GMing another Round, but it is far from being ready plus I don't think I have enough time to GM. Just write me down for GMing in Dcemeber

Et tu, Conio?

[Akonyl]

But I seriously doubt the POs had all that much to do with it. It was mostly the lucky circumstance that we had a 100% trust alliance of six very early on (3 DBs, two town lovers, and Ai) and managed to get more people without having to risk accidentally including BO. And there weren't many BOs either iirc.

You can't add the POs when they're clearly connected to certain characters. And having less information should make things more interesting. Unfortunately, the BO's POs weren't quite as useful as the town ones.

while you had a big alliance anyway, the uncertainty was a big problem for the BO. When you don't know what can actually happen, it's hard to discern what's going on and so it's hard to gather information anyway. Hearing "oh, agasa was aptxed and is now immune" may have been a lie, but the BO had no way of knowing that, and that along with some other things influenced us a fair bit.

And why does their connection to characters mean you can't add them? You don't have to tell everyone your PO, so that wouldn't matter much.

Also, I had some crazy ideas for GMing another Round, but it is far from being ready plus I don't think I have enough time to GM. Just write me down for GMing in Dcemeber

gasp, then I wouldn't be the only other 3x GM! I gotta stay on top :O

[Conia]

Also, I had some crazy ideas for GMing another Round, but it is far from being ready plus I don't think I have enough time to GM. Just write me down for GMing in Dcemeber

Et tu, Conio?

Wrong guess on my username Dus

[pofa]

It is hard to be trusted as a protector, even if investigated, people can just acuse of using the BS until you correctly protect someone. I risked being honest with you, but my big aim was protecting some town fast and stay abroad watching how everything developed. Too late for regrets I guess

This is true about "healing/protecting" roles. Maybe we can think of some more things for them to be able to do? (I know every role can't have an awesome ability, but. )

Also, I had some crazy ideas for GMing another Round, but it is far from being ready plus I don't think I have enough time to GM. Just write me down for GMing in Dcemeber

I want to GM another round, too, but it'll probably be around December or January before I'll have time.

[PT]

You cold blood murderer!

That statement is completely false! I only killed Abs., and I hated myself for it!

Other than that, I did everything I normally do as town: gather information.

[xpon]

so .. can i made a crazy round now?

because you will hope you became Townie this round!!!!!

[Dus]

But I seriously doubt the POs had all that much to do with it. It was mostly the lucky circumstance that we had a 100% trust alliance of six very early on (3 DBs, two town lovers, and Ai) and managed to get more people without having to risk accidentally including BO. And there weren't many BOs either iirc.

You can't add the POs when they're clearly connected to certain characters. And having less information should make things more interesting. Unfortunately, the BO's POs weren't quite as useful as the town ones.

while you had a big alliance anyway, the uncertainty was a big problem for the BO. When you don't know what can actually happen, it's hard to discern what's going on and so it's hard to gather information anyway. Hearing "oh, agasa was aptxed and is now immune" may have been a lie, but the BO had no way of knowing that, and that along with some other things influenced us a fair bit.

And why does their connection to characters mean you can't add them? You don't have to tell everyone your PO, so that wouldn't matter much.

Well, if they had been added in round 14 then it would have been fairly obvious who the traitor was. And even if you're probably a better judge of how much paranoia they caused: Town/BO lovers are very similiar. It probably was a mistake to tell Anokata that he had to find the traitors.
@Conia: I was using the vocative form. (Czech vocative, but doesn't matter)

@xpon: Just start it already!

[xpon]

Okay!... i will start it

I hope i can get 20 players.. he he he he

[Yurikochan]

And PT you were suspicious. And I knew Parkur was evil. Next time I won't be a DB! *gets DB again* ...

You figured out I was suspicious a little too late, though. And you still gave me information, even after, though you cut it down quite a bit after I hinted (and by "hinted", I mean "basically flat-out said) that I knew Abs. was your partner.

Gonna be honest though, if, when I asked who my potential lover was, you had told me the player rather than telling me you couldn't tell me because it was your partner, we might not have put Abs. being a DB together quite so quickly. Also, the BO wouldn't have trusted me quite as much.

The DBs really have trust problems cause they really can't trust anyone or check someone out. I'm pretty sure you know what it's like from your round as DB. Yeah, I gave you all my information first day. Which was wrong on my part. (And won't happen again ^^) And I was all shocked I wasn't the one being frightened. I guess I should apologize to Abs. more than anyone here.

@PT: I guess this means we broke up *runs off to Conia*

*cries* O...okay. I deserved that.

Yeah, you are more cold-blooded cause you seem so not evil.

[pofa]

But I seriously doubt the POs had all that much to do with it. It was mostly the lucky circumstance that we had a 100% trust alliance of six very early on (3 DBs, two town lovers, and Ai) and managed to get more people without having to risk accidentally including BO. And there weren't many BOs either iirc.

You can't add the POs when they're clearly connected to certain characters. And having less information should make things more interesting. Unfortunately, the BO's POs weren't quite as useful as the town ones.

while you had a big alliance anyway, the uncertainty was a big problem for the BO. When you don't know what can actually happen, it's hard to discern what's going on and so it's hard to gather information anyway. Hearing "oh, agasa was aptxed and is now immune" may have been a lie, but the BO had no way of knowing that, and that along with some other things influenced us a fair bit.

And why does their connection to characters mean you can't add them? You don't have to tell everyone your PO, so that wouldn't matter much.

Well, if they had been added in round 14 then it would have been fairly obvious who the traitor was. And even if you're probably a better judge of how much paranoia they caused: Town/BO lovers are very similiar. It probably was a mistake to tell Anokata that he had to find the traitors.
@Conia: I was using the vocative form. (Czech vocative, but doesn't matter)

@xpon: Just start it already!

Yeah, but it was like knowing for sure that there was a town-BO lover from Night 1, but not having any viable way of proving who it was(contrasted with this round, where we were able to prove it) or how many of them there were, or if killing them would benefit the BO at all. With Town-BO lovers, you don't know from the start so there is paranoia, but everyone has the same information about how they will act.

[xpon]

btw.. if the prep phase start at this time.. will it be too soon? or not?

Tuesday

or i should start it in

Thursday

[Edogawa4869]

*begins plotting edo's death*

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