Firstly, I think dumytru is owed a debt of gratitude, because without him, that strategy probably would've turned out really badly. So, much thanks to him for saving it at the last minute.
Togop wrote:Jd-, it's unlikely that the spy team voted, but didn't kill due to inactivity. I, at least, would do that in the same message. The only team that self-voted was shinichi'sapprentice and googleearth. It is also possible the spy wanted to divert suspicion away or hasn't identified the informant.
Actually, I don't think it's really as easy as that. Deciding which team to kill in a game with so few teams is something that both team members would want to add input on, so I don't think just one of the team members would be handling it. Sending in a random vote with a "we'll decide who to kill based on how the topic goes" sort of thing seems likely to me, with them just losing track of the timezone and countdown to phase ending in the meantime. At least, that's just how it seems to me. It's different when it's just you, but as you can see from most of the teams here, everyone wants to get their teammate's input on their actions. I can very easily envision the Spy team saying, "Let's vote for X & Y temporarily just so we don't accidentally vote and then send in the kill later after we see how the topic's going."
Togop wrote:Actually, the fact that nobody get killed is not a bad thing; neither is the fact that we didn't arrest a (probably) civillian. While in terms of information, at least I have a lot more now that I had at the end of prep phase. At least for me, the way different people reacted to this strategy was a lot more informative than random voting would have been.
For example, as I suggested it, the strategy involved a nomination process which was supposed to give extra information to the detective. Jd- saw it fit to stop that nomination process. While he pointed out a valid reason, he could have waited to see some more nominations before stopping them, but he didn't. I'd like to hear why.
As Monk would say, "Here's the thing": Putting the quieter users not up for mere nomination but in a situation where they could very easily get knocked out of the game is something that is going to create a lot of distrust and strife the second it didn't work. The reason it's a lot better to involve people who are actually discussing such a strategy is pretty simple: Those people actually have reason to see it through and ensure a tie happens. If the Spy team hijacks such a strategy, such as if Fujiwara/Raifuujin were the Spies, they could ensure that their targets were arrested while making it seem like an innocent mistake.
If you look at how that almost turned out, I was right. If it had not been for dumytru at the very end, one of the teams would've definitely been arrested. Now, if you take away the incentive for at least two of those votes (yours & Fuji/Rai), there would have been a lot less coverage here in the topic and it's almost certain that someone would've actually been arrested. This way, everyone involved was motivated to ensure it worked instead of just leaving it to chance.
but that would mean that the spy and informant also do that :x
