xpon wrote:
i have read your Post since yesterday kleene. and i decide to not change many things for this round.
but reading the latest post on this topic gave me idea.
i know the idea is silly but please bear with me.
@2 side lover
the idea of them need to kill 20 player and keep alive is too much stressing. ( i have a good memory of how i stress out but happy when i read that i was lover)
so we need to tweak the game, but right now i am still use the old rules, but if the 2 side lover happen on my round, i guarantee that they will have a nice hint to aptx the town and bo!
@ APTX.
all Bo can Aptx everyone! i dont understand why kleene forbid it.
imagine that vermouth is in the game and lover or want to lead the BO but Gin is still alive. without restrictions, she can aptx gin and have the status of leader for her self.
@Kogoro sober when ran injured.
i love it. and will add it!
@Pisco.
he need more ability
@keywords.
i will list the keyword i used.
@sniper injuring the police.
i think i will change the injured into temporary Injure.
so the injury will only last 2 phase after the arrest. just like suspending because false arrest attempt!
I did that because the APTX rule was changed recently. And the lovers could aptx the BO while still keeping the APTX amount, which is different from the old rule, where they would still loose it.
So, they could aptx the BO while still having some left for the town :V
Of course I could ahve leave it like that :V Dunno, thought it wasn't good because I couldn't just tell in the thread: "Oh, yeah, in case people wonder, BO/Town lovers can APTX the BO freely :V" which would have given them away.
Dus wrote:
Some other roles I've been thinking about
Nakamori, Police Inspector
Night action: Investigate 3
Night/Day action: Arrest
Night action: Pinch faces (3?)
Interrogation: Not BO
Scent: No
Disguise: Yes
Items: Gun, Car-keys
Observe: Adult
With "pinch face", he can check whether or not a player is in disguise
Sherry, BO scientist
Night action: APTX(?)
Interrogation: BO
Scent: Yes
Disguise: No
Items: Gun, Panties, Alcohol
Observe: Teenager
I just really want to include her.
The main problem I have with the role is, that it would tell the BO that Ai isn't in the game. Or you'd have two Shiho Miyanos in the game.
A new Abiltiy:
Bribe
- Role with that action: Vodka, Sonoko
- Night action, Crime, can be covered, usable once per game
- Vodka can bribe the GM so the kill goes through, no matter what.
- Sonoko can bribe the Gm and the BO doesn't get to kill someone that night.
- If both characters use the ability during the same night, they cancel each other out. They can then be re-used later.
Mainly because Sonoko can do nothing atm, apart from acting as a proxy.
Kleene, you've mentioned Yamamure. Any ideas on him?
@nakamori: Yees! I also had the pinch face idea XD But in my version, he would also strip them from their disguise, meaning the pinched one isn't disguised anymore and looses all abilities that the disguise had. But nakamori won't know what disguise it was or who it is (vermouth, KID, Yukiko, Irish)
WHen Irish or Yukiko are pinched, their current disguise action would fail then too :v (but they can disguise again when they have a disguise left)
Also thought about giving nakamori a ability, where he knows if someone got something stolen and how often something was stolen. Or what item was stolen, but doesn't know who had the item.
This could replace the investigate that police officer usually get as a ability :x Dunno if it's good enough tho D:
We could make "Sherry" as a BO role actually, since she was a member. And we have akemi too. The role "Haibara" isn't a BO anymore.
Could also be the first BO role that is a teenager instead of an adult (yes, I know sherry is ~18, but still, can count as a teenager D:)
Bribe sounds quite strong for a town ability :V Since the night killings usually go through. And preventing a night killing is a grave loss for the BO D:
Well, Yamamura is usually confusing and silly. But just giving him discombobulating ability would be meh D:
So I thought of a ability like confusion. But there are still flaws that I dunno how to solve exactly D:
Anyway:
Confuse
- Night/Day action
- Chooses a target "Player A" and a victim "Player B"
- If Player A uses an action, like healing, killing, interrogating etc, he will use it on "Player B"
- Can also choose Player A as Target and Victim.
- All actions will be done on "Player B", so in case Gin kills and uses slander, he'll kill and slander "Player B"
- Yamamura can use himself as a victim.
- In case he uses that action on himself as a victim and confused a discombobulator, meaning he got himself tricked this way, the ability will still go trick him (meaning the confusion came first and got the discombobulation on him afterward) [one flaw?]
- Investigations: [next flaw]
Version1: doesn't work with investigate.
Version2: All investigations will be done one "Player B"
So, if the investigation was originally:
Kleene kills Abs.
Akonyl heals Nomemory
xpon slanders xpon.
it will be turned into:
Player B kills Abs.
Player B heals nomemory
Player B slanders xpon
Possible there are more flaws D:
But this could end up funny XD In case he targets a BO that is killing and the victim is another BO XD Then the BO killed a BO XD Or other funny stuff could happen XD
There is also the problem with arresting, should it work on arrest?
@befriend from slow mafia:
Personally I don't like that ability :V
Akonyl wrote:
eh, I'm not sure I like the "befriend" from slow mafia, it seems a bit crazy to me tbh.
The only thing I can think of that would make sense show-wise would be some "gossip" ability, though I dunno what exactly it would do, as all the ideas I have for it would be BO things.
Less true to the show, we could maybe let her be calvados-esque, and let her use the abilities of her friend in place of her friend. So if she friended eisuke, she could do the discombobulation instead of him for the night (so there'd still just be 1 discombob, not 2, but a different person doing it).
Also, you asked about Kleene's Yamamura, iirc her idea on him was a "confuse" ability, where he would choose two players, and all of player A's abilities for the night would be redirected to player B (or alternately, maybe player A's abilities just went to random people).
that calvados-like ability would me neat :x
This way, even if the BO knows that someone made an ability, it could be KID disguised, Yukiko or now even Sonoko :x So APTXing would get a bit harder XD And it would fit the "friendship" image of sonoko, since she tries to be the proxy.
Akonyl wrote:
Dus wrote:
But for Yamamura to be really useful he would have to target two BOs. Otherwise he just hinders town with his ability.
I'm leaning towards a "cover"-like ability for Sonoko anyway. Or bribe, but with a different effect. Mostly because it would be a crime.
iirc, there was nothing mentioned with the yamamura ability that prevented you from making people target themselves.
maybe bribe could force someone to vote along with you? Though, I'm not sure I like it over a cover/gossip anyway.
edits:
Also, being that Anokata's bribe has still yet to be useful, here's an ability I've thought of giving Anokata for a while:
Prep phase ability: Prepare Mission
-Anokata will be given a list of all BO roles that are going to be in the game (though not the players) during the prep phase.
-If they want to, Anokata may choose one non-prep-phase BO role, in the list or not.
*If the name is in the list, that role will be removed, and replaced with another random non-prep BO role not already in the list
*If the name is not in the list, that role will be reassigned in place of a random non-prep role in the list.
So basically it would give anokata a little bit of control over the roster, if they wanted to. So if they saw that there was gonna be two snipers, they could choose to toss one of the snipers in hopes of getting a better role, and if they wanted a tequila, they could request one, though they might accidentally replace another good role (like a gin/vodka).
Sounds nice :3 Not sure how future GMs like it XD
