Mafia Round 72: It's a Secret to Everybody [BO Wins]

[PT]

All results should now be out. Please PM me ASAP if you didn't get yours.

[Abs.]

KLEENE! D: D: D: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[shinichi'sapprentice]

......... Kleene

Gonna be home in an hour-ish

[Conia]

... Crapbaskets

There's 3 people that could have APTX'd Kleene: Her 2 pinch targets (Meme and Abs.) and the very less likely remaining is Stop that apparently knew one of her actions.

[dumytru]

Kleene D:

[Kleene Onigiri]

O_o

[Iwamoto Yuri]

There's 3 people that could have APTX'd Kleene: Her 2 pinch targets (Meme and Abs.) and the very less likely remaining is Stop that apparently knew one of her actions.

Sounds to me like the BO got lucky...

[Conia]

There's 3 people that could have APTX'd Kleene: Her 2 pinch targets (Meme and Abs.) and the very less likely remaining is Stop that apparently knew one of her actions.

Sounds to me like the BO got lucky...

Were they lucky? Taking into account Kleene's will:

Night 1:
Abs. Kamite and SA pmed me. Nothing much (mafia related) happened. Pinched Meme but her face is real!
Random investigations for killings

Day 1:
Talked with Abs. Kamite and SA again. Also Raiden and dumytru contacted me
Voting randomly.

Night 2:
Nothing much to report. Talked a bit with the ones that contacted me already, but not much info sharing happened. Pinching Abs. tonight.
Random investigations for killings

There's a lot of names there that could hold details about Kleene. Even more, Abs. was both in contact with her and pinched as well.
And also no less important:

Update: Stoppy now knows I can investigate. No one else knows much about be. The ones I talked to could assume that I have a night action tho.

The only person that knew Kleene could Investigate is marked right there. If Stoppy was aware that Meme or Abs. were pinched... then just shrugging it off as a coincidence starts to sound like a bit of a stretch.

Also Kleene's reaction (!quote 358 for you girigirl) suggests that it was unexpected, possibly betrayed by an ally of sorts?

[PT]

(!quote 358 for you girigirl)

[+Houndoom] !quote 358
[@Akobo] 358: SPACE-: <@Togepi> I kinda love how space egg forced Apollo Clay boating



Kleene ships Apollo x Clay!

[Conia]

... :V
!quotesearch STABBED VICTIMS DON'T TALK

[Yurikochan]

(!quote 358 for you girigirl)

[+Houndoom] !quote 358
[@Akobo] 358: SPACE-: <@Togepi> I kinda love how space egg forced Apollo Clay boating



Kleene ships Apollo x Clay!

I love how its randomly that quote :x

[miyano_shiho]

Oh my, this is bad. We lost 3 cops already. We better start lynching BO. There should still be 5 of them (out of 13 left) and it's only a matter of time before they outnumber us. I hope the SA lead is still up, or do we have a better chance with Abs-/Meme?

EDIT: I think there's 5 BO if strictly speaking the number is between 1/4 and 1/3 (4.25 - 5.67) the total number of players. If they kill another one tonight it'll be 5 vs 7, then if they APTX another one the next day, the game might be over... D:

[Conia]

Oh my, this is bad. We lost 3 cops already. We better start lynching BO. There should still be 5 of them (out of 13 left) and it's only a matter of time before they outnumber us. I hope the SA lead is still up, or do we have a better chance with Abs-/Meme?

EDIT: I think there's 5 BO if strictly speaking the number is between 1/4 and 1/3 (4.25 - 5.67) the total number of players. If they kill another one tonight it'll be 5 vs 7, then if they APTX another one the next day, the game might be over... D:

SA's lead is still up and running, whoever stopped the vote can make a case for their decision to stop it, either here or in PMs, I would love to hear it.

[dumytru]

Oh my, this is bad. We lost 3 cops already. We better start lynching BO. There should still be 5 of them (out of 13 left) and it's only a matter of time before they outnumber us. I hope the SA lead is still up, or do we have a better chance with Abs-/Meme?

EDIT: I think there's 5 BO if strictly speaking the number is between 1/4 and 1/3 (4.25 - 5.67) the total number of players. If they kill another one tonight it'll be 5 vs 7, then if they APTX another one the next day, the game might be over... D:

Let's not hurry on lynching SA.
@Conia: What is you lead exactly? If you're thinking he's acting strange, then that's just SA.
Last game story:

Spoiler:

Context:
One observer died. Kleene claimed to me and Rizu to be an observer (N1). SA knew somebody was SOed.

Both Rizu and I told SA we have an ally that's an observer. Besides that, I actually told him my ally SOed Jecka Night 1. The "somebody" SA knew was SOed wasn't Jecka.
This is where he assumed Rizu and I were talking about different people, and created a huge confusion (basically why Kleene said she should suicide).

Ah, RMed by Conia.

Point is, he's playing in a very risky way. I'm not saying he's not BO (I do actually suspect him, but it's nothing solid, not worth lynching somebody over it).
What I'm saying is, do not lynch SA without a reason. As miya said, if we lynch SA, and somebody dies this phase, we're already lost.

The votes were most likely canceled because SA has no crime *yet*.
I'd suggest the investigators (if we still have some), check on SA killing somebody this phase. Well, I was going to suggest that until miya said there are 5 BO in game?
I assumed there are 4, which means if we decide publicly to investigate SA, the 4-th will have to kill, which in turn will really leave SA to kill next night.

Anyways, if Conia, you have a stronger lead on SA, then I'm in, but otherwise I think it's a bad idea to think "SA is acting weird".

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Now, related to Kleene's killer:
I've been talking to her, but she was very secretive. She basically told me nothing. And she told me "we didn't really shared info with each other" when I asked her about SA.
My point is, she's usually more active with sharing info (last game she claimed observer to several people N1). So maybe this way the BO figured out she's playing safe because she's a cop.
If that's so, Abs and Meme really look suspicious.

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Next point: I've shared this with a couple of people, but I guess it's not harm is I say this here.
I've contacted 9 people D1 (Kleene is the only one who died, so now 8 are alive).
Out of those 9, only Meme didn't replied in the same phase.

Night 2, I told SA about how Meme didn't replied and I asked him to check her. I also asked Kleene her opinion on Meme and SA (but never mentioned Meme didn't reply).
The thing is, a few hours about I told that to SA, Meme did replied. This is what I thought was strange. But nevertheless, not exactly a lead.

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Anyhow, I don't have any good leads or suspects. I've pretty much shared everything I know, thought I haven't mentioned the people I trust.

So what are we going to do? I'm against lynching SA without solid evidence. I'd rather have SA, Meme, Abs. investigated and decide who we lynch based on the results.

EDIT: I'd like to know why to vote was stopped too. More exactly, when was SA CEed? N1 or N2? If he was CE-ed. Is there an action I'm missing?

EDIT 2: I just read about the town trickster. How could I have missed the post -_-
But why wouldn't there be two town tricksters? Don't randomly share failed actions if we don't know for sure. Last game there was Amuro and Sera, right? That's two town tricksters.

[miyano_shiho]

EDIT: I'd like to know why to vote was stopped too. More exactly, when was SA CEed? N1 or N2? If he was CE-ed. Is there an action I'm missing?

To be honest, the first thought that came into my mind when I saw that the vote was stopped was that it was done by BO disguised as Eri, therefore strengthening the lead on SA. One would only try to stop the vote either because they're allies (BFFs or lovers-unlikely because Yumi and 3 dead cops) or it's a matter of winning or losing (the BO's on a roll you know).

Also, who and where in the thread was it said that SA was CE-ed?