Mafia Round 20: The Stalker Round! (BO Wins!)

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Re: Mafia Round 20: The Stalker Round! (Day 3)

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Abs. used reveal culprit to find the killer for Night 1.

The options given to him, according to his will, were:

Yurikochan **
Paix672
shihokudo *
Mystery_angel801

*shihokudo was Korn. Meaning, if she had killed Kleene, then they had to have used Bribe on her, and then waste a sniper kill on her. That doesn't make any sense at all if they know she's going to die. Save the sniper for someone else.

**I have absolute 100% proof that Yuriko is town. Now, whether or not you believe me on this is completely up to you.

If you're willing to believe I'm town - and thus, believe that Yuriko is also town, I would strongly suggest we look into Paix and Mystery_angel ASAP. One of them killed Kleene on Night 1.
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I have absolute 100% proof that Mystery_angel is a townie. Which leaves us with Paix.
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PhoenixTears wrote: Abs. used reveal culprit to find the killer for Night 1.

The options given to him, according to his will, were:

Yurikochan **
Paix672
shihokudo *
Mystery_angel801

*shihokudo was Korn. Meaning, if she had killed Kleene, then they had to have used Bribe on her, and then waste a sniper kill on her. That doesn't make any sense at all if they know she's going to die. Save the sniper for someone else.

**I have absolute 100% proof that Yuriko is town. Now, whether or not you believe me on this is completely up to you.

If you're willing to believe I'm town - and thus, believe that Yuriko is also town, I would strongly suggest we look into Paix and Mystery_angel ASAP. One of them killed Kleene on Night 1.
Yeah, I agree on that conclusion. I was wondering the same and I also think that someone else was killing Kleene during night 1.
Though, I always have problems with people claiming that they are 100% sure that a certain player is town. The BO has a lot of abilities than can make them look like town so I am always weary when someone claims they have proven someone beyond any doubt.

Because actually: I think Yurikochan could be Pisco herself. If I were BO, I would have the sniper injure Yurikochan as well. She had used her ability twice already, so injuring her would make other people trust her (especially if she was able to make allies before).

So your "absolute proof" is not fully convincing me.


miikosan wrote: I have absolute 100% proof that Mystery_angel is a townie. Which leaves us with Paix.
Uhh... how 100% are 100% proof? I mean, I have heard that quite a lot but in the end it turned out that those trusted people were in deed BO.
Just like how I am not sure with Yurikochan.


Also finally: Does anyone know anything about Paix? He is the most suspicious one at the moment, but we don't have room for errors. Also, if anyone else could confirm (or refute) the trust in Yurikochan and Mystery_angel I would feel a lot more confident...
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Re: Mafia Round 20: The Stalker Round! (Day 3)

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There is absolutely no way that Yuriko is BO.

However, if I hadn't have found proof of it myself, I would have thought she's Pisco too. That's probably exactly what the BO wants us to think about why they injured her.
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PhoenixTears wrote: There is absolutely no way that Yuriko is BO.

However, if I hadn't have found proof of it myself, I would have thought she's Pisco too. That's probably exactly what the BO wants us to think about why they injured her.
So you mean that either you two are both town, or both BO? (Or town-BO lovers...)
Well. Is there a way for anyone to check which side you are on? I mean, beside when you die.

I know that answering might be dangerous, but so far the game is not going well and falling for a BO trap once more would probably end the game.
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Mystery_angel isn't BO. I already confirmed her using my own methods.

Of course, it's up to you guys to believe it or not.
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@Schillok: "when" I die? You planning to have me killed? :P

Anyway I'm not give my role or anything away but feel free to interrogate me (and stake me out or check for slandering so you know it's accurate), or have Haibara follow me. Or any other way someone can prove I'm town... I'm not BO. And I'm not a town role that should show BO results for anything unless I'm interrogated at the same time I'm slandered.
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PhoenixTears wrote: @Schillok: "when" I die? You planning to have me killed? :P

Anyway I'm not give my role or anything away but feel free to interrogate me (and stake me out or check for slandering so you know it's accurate), or have Haibara follow me. Or any other way someone can prove I'm town... I'm not BO. And I'm not a town role that should show BO results for anything unless I'm interrogated at the same time I'm slandered.
What I wanted to point out is that we can't be certain about you. Lynching would normally tell if you and Yuriko are BO or town (since if one of you is BO, then the other one is as well). However just as it was pointed out before: We don't have the luxury of lynching any more townies in this situation. So any other way to make sure what side you two are one would make things a lot easier.
But you are right: Even if we can't be 100% sure, investigating, interrogating, observing and stake-out might help us to figure out if you are BO. Pisco is not that hard to figure out since he has a scent, is an adult and appears as "BO" unless slandered.

So if you are town - or BO - we should be able to figure it out tonight.
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miikosan wrote: Mystery_angel isn't BO. I already confirmed her using my own methods.

Of course, it's up to you guys to believe it or not.
Something tells me I'm not really getting any elaboration from this. ::)
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@Schillok: Like I said, go ahead and do whatever you need to to prove me. I have nothing to hide. I won't tell my ability but I have no scent and a non-slandered interrogation would come up Not BO. Of course I could still be Anokata in that case, but there's not much I can do to defend myself against that while the black suitcase is around. Also I'd say DBs could prove me, but I won't be giving my role away to someone just because they claim to be a DB.

I don't see any reason to give my role away just because I'm apparently suspicious. That's exactly what the BO is trying to get me to do.
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Re: Mafia Round 20: The Stalker Round! (Day 3)

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Edogawa4869 wrote:
miikosan wrote: Mystery_angel isn't BO. I already confirmed her using my own methods.

Of course, it's up to you guys to believe it or not.
Something tells me I'm not really getting any elaboration from this. ::)
I confirmed her not BO. It said right there  ::)
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PhoenixTears wrote: @Schillok: Like I said, go ahead and do whatever you need to to prove me. I have nothing to hide. I won't tell my ability but I have no scent and a non-slandered interrogation would come up Not BO. Of course I could still be Anokata in that case, but there's not much I can do to defend myself against that while the black suitcase is around. Also I'd say DBs could prove me, but I won't be giving my role away to someone just because they claim to be a DB.

I don't see any reason to give my role away just because I'm apparently suspicious. That's exactly what the BO is trying to get me to do.
I wouldn't expect it to do it anyway. If I were in your situation I wouldn't tell anyone either.

miikosan wrote:
Edogawa4869 wrote:
miikosan wrote: Mystery_angel isn't BO. I already confirmed her using my own methods.

Of course, it's up to you guys to believe it or not.
Something tells me I'm not really getting any elaboration from this. ::)
I confirmed her not BO. It said right there  ::)
Even if you say she is not BO there is no way for us to confirm this just from your words, right?
But again, maybe we can find this out tonight. Having to concentrate on only 3 possible players should be okay.
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Which 3 players are you talking about?
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