Girl19 wrote:Do we at least agree that 7-year-old-looking Conan, who's actually 17-years-old, with the 7 year old Ayumi, is lolicon wrong?
Not any more wrong than the 7-year-old-looking Conan with the 17 year old Ran. Or the 7-year-old-looking Conan with the 7-year-old-looking Haibara.
Let's face it, as a 7 year old Conan would not be able to be with any girl - at least not in a serious relationship.
This leads to the conclusion that Conan HAS to grow up to be with anyone.
As for the grown-up Ayumi, all that you've said is just plain speculations. We can't really know if the grown-up Ayumi will keep the same interests and values that she has now. People do change, and maybe Ai is a good example of that. Nobody can deny how much she has changed since she knew Conan; she's learned a lot from him and he's learned from her as well.
Really? What did Conan learn from Haibara that he didn't know before? There is nothing that comes to my mind. Maybe you will find a small thing if you search long enough. But the same could probably be said for Ayumi as well.
You have to assume some stability in the likes, dislikes and behavior of the characters. Yes, Ayumi might change her interests and values. But at the same point Haibara could become a giggling, girly friend-of-all-living-beings. Could happen. But it is unlikely.
There's a reciprocal learning and understanding relationship between the two which doesn't exist between Conan and Ayumi.
"Reciprocal" (=opposite, inverse) is a good word to describe Conan and Haibara. They are completely inverse to each other. Too different to really understand each other.
As you said, it is different with Conan and Ayumi: They like the same things so they are more or less "linear" to each other.
Another point is that Ayumi's interest in Conan may disappear as she ages. I think so because, first of all, her interest in Conan, as for now, is just a normal childish crush based on how Conan impresses her because he knows things which only grown-ups would know and sometimes wouldn't. When she grows up, she probably won't find him as impressing as she does now, and loses interest in him.
Again, this is pure speculation. Ran certain was impressed by Shinichis knowledge since early childhood and carried on (and developed) her feelings while they grew up. There is no reason why Ayumi can't be the same way.
Anyhow, I personally think that, even if Conan stays in a child's body and grows up with Ayumi, he won't be interested in her in a romantic way. He will most likely always see her as a little girl.
He sees her as a little girl right now because... well, because she IS a little girl. (Though he also seems her as a friend I think.)
Ayumi will grow up - physically and psychically. And Conan won't be able to ignore that at some point.
Of course, even then it does not mean he will feel attracted to her. On the other hand... she is quite similar to his first love (Ran). If a more mature Ayumi is the same (physical) age as him, and has the traits that he likes in women... what would stop him from falling in love with her at some point?