Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

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Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Shinichi+Ran
187
60%
Conan+Ai
111
35%
Neither one
16
5%
 
Total votes: 314
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Re: Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Postby Chekhov MacGuffin » July 21st, 2010, 8:00 pm

blurfbreg wrote:AND someone should just post all sides of the argument for all the pairing in ONE easy-to-see post (without the ad hominem) in a EASY-TO-FIND place (not page 34, 75, 156, 217, etc. of Ai x Conan thread). I have given up on reading the threads with pairings because they usually are TOO long (I've only been able to follow Conan x Ayumi and the unusual ones because they're more manageable).
Since it was linked in the theories reference section in the spoiler thread this one was easy to find: Gin and Sherry had a relationship: Thread, single post. I also had a post about issues in ShinRan and ConAi. I'm pretty neutral regarding the pairings because I don't care about them unless they intersect with the plot, so I'd like to say my commentary isn't too biased.

You could always start a "Pairing reference thread" linking to posts that cover various opinions (pro and con) and other issues (ex. who will Shinichi ultimately end up with)? regarding the pairings.
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Re: Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Postby Eve » July 21st, 2010, 8:08 pm

Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
blurfbreg wrote:AND someone should just post all sides of the argument for all the pairing in ONE easy-to-see post (without the ad hominem) in a EASY-TO-FIND place (not page 34, 75, 156, 217, etc. of Ai x Conan thread). I have given up on reading the threads with pairings because they usually are TOO long (I've only been able to follow Conan x Ayumi and the unusual ones because they're more manageable).
Since it was linked in the theories reference section in the spoiler thread this one was easy to find: Gin and Sherry had a relationship: Thread, single post. I also had a post about issues in ShinRan and ConAi. I'm pretty neutral regarding the pairings because I don't care about them unless they intersect with the plot, so I'd like to say my commentary isn't too biased.

You could always start a "Pairing reference thread" linking to posts that cover various opinions (pro and con) and other issues (ex. who will Shinichi ultimately end up with)? regarding the pairings.




wait, the things about Ai, do you have the cap when she was listening to her mothers' tapes, she suddenly froze as if hearing something "interesting/dangerous?" I forgot that ep but it was somewhere and I believe it's an important detail :)
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Re: Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Postby Detective Prince » July 21st, 2010, 8:11 pm

That is a great idea. Now who is going to do it?? *eyes Chekhov*
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Re: Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Postby Conia » July 21st, 2010, 8:19 pm

Khinkhun wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
blurfbreg wrote:AND someone should just post all sides of the argument for all the pairing in ONE easy-to-see post (without the ad hominem) in a EASY-TO-FIND place (not page 34, 75, 156, 217, etc. of Ai x Conan thread). I have given up on reading the threads with pairings because they usually are TOO long (I've only been able to follow Conan x Ayumi and the unusual ones because they're more manageable).
Since it was linked in the theories reference section in the spoiler thread this one was easy to find: Gin and Sherry had a relationship: Thread, single post. I also had a post about issues in ShinRan and ConAi. I'm pretty neutral regarding the pairings because I don't care about them unless they intersect with the plot, so I'd like to say my commentary isn't too biased.

You could always start a "Pairing reference thread" linking to posts that cover various opinions (pro and con) and other issues (ex. who will Shinichi ultimately end up with)? regarding the pairings.




wait, the things about Ai, do you have the cap when she was listening to her mothers' tapes, she suddenly froze as if hearing something "interesting/dangerous?" I forgot that ep but it was somewhere and I believe it's an important detail :)


Episode 340-341.
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Re: Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Postby Chekhov MacGuffin » July 21st, 2010, 8:19 pm

Khinkhun wrote:wait, the things about Ai, do you have the cap when she was listening to her mothers' tapes, she suddenly froze as if hearing something "interesting/dangerous?" I forgot that ep but it was somewhere and I believe it's an important detail :)

Hold on a sec... V42-1 (425), V42-3 (427) are the chapters you most likely want, and episodes 341, 343, and 344 are the most likely.

[spoiler=copy pasta]Elena left four tapes for Haibara. (425 and 427) They are numbered 1-20 with the numbers split into groups of five. The numbers correspond to a message left by Elena for Haibara's same-numbered birthday; Conan listened to the beginning of the #11-15 tape and Elena’s recording was for 11-year-old Shiho. (File 425 p. 17). Conan mentioned that he moved to the 11 through 15 one because there were so many blank ones. I suppose the blank ones were some the earlier tapes (1-5 and 6-10) corresponding to when Ai was young. I wonder why they were blank?  
I would like to note that in number 18, Elena talks about if Shiho will regret what she is about to do. My guess is that refers to Shiho taking over the drug research or returning to the org from her studies abroad. I wonder how Elena would have known Ai was taking over the research at that particular age?
Something Elena said about herself at the part of the third tape meant for Ai’s 18th birthday surprised Ai, but we couldn’t hear what it was due to a scene switch. (You are old enough to hear this … I am really…)  Two ideas which take into account the information is something that you wouldn't tell someone until they were older and more mature: one was that she was telling Shiho that either Atsushi or Elena was still alive, and another is that one (or both) of her parents wasn't her real parent. (Her original parent(s) was someone significant) The reason I always thought it might have had something to do with the parents was Vermouth's smile when Agasa mentions what they might uncover about them. (Volume 41 chap 10)[/spoiler]

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Re: Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Postby Eve » July 21st, 2010, 8:26 pm

Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Khinkhun wrote:wait, the things about Ai, do you have the cap when she was listening to her mothers' tapes, she suddenly froze as if hearing something "interesting/dangerous?" I forgot that ep but it was somewhere and I believe it's an important detail :)

Hold on a sec... V42-1 (425), V42-3 (427) are the chapters you most likely want, and episodes 341, 343, and 344 are the most likely.

[spoiler=copy pasta]Elena left four tapes for Haibara. (425 and 427) They are numbered 1-20 with the numbers split into groups of five. The numbers correspond to a message left by Elena for Haibara's same-numbered birthday; Conan listened to the beginning of the #11-15 tape and Elena’s recording was for 11-year-old Shiho. (File 425 p. 17). Conan mentioned that he moved to the 11 through 15 one because there were so many blank ones. I suppose the blank ones were some the earlier tapes (1-5 and 6-10) corresponding to when Ai was young. I wonder why they were blank? 
I would like to note that in number 18, Elena talks about if Shiho will regret what she is about to do. My guess is that refers to Shiho taking over the drug research or returning to the org from her studies abroad. I wonder how Elena would have known Ai was taking over the research at that particular age?
Something Elena said about herself at the part of the third tape meant for Ai’s 18th birthday surprised Ai, but we couldn’t hear what it was due to a scene switch. (You are old enough to hear this … I am really…)  Two ideas which take into account the information is something that you wouldn't tell someone until they were older and more mature: one was that she was telling Shiho that either Atsushi or Elena was still alive, and another is that one (or both) of her parents wasn't her real parent. (Her original parent(s) was someone significant) The reason I always thought it might have had something to do with the parents was Vermouth's smile when Agasa mentions what they might uncover about them. (Volume 41 chap 10)[/spoiler]

Edit: Scooped by Conia...


yep yep, cheers to both conia and Chekhov :) that was the scene :), EXCEPT, I couldn't find it :( Maybe I've mistaken, But I've check ep 340-341, 343-44... but couldn't find that particular part.... :(, I would love to know if you guys know the time and the ep XD
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Re: Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Postby Conia » July 22nd, 2010, 10:48 am

Khinkhun wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Khinkhun wrote:wait, the things about Ai, do you have the cap when she was listening to her mothers' tapes, she suddenly froze as if hearing something "interesting/dangerous?" I forgot that ep but it was somewhere and I believe it's an important detail :)

Hold on a sec... V42-1 (425), V42-3 (427) are the chapters you most likely want, and episodes 341, 343, and 344 are the most likely.

[spoiler=copy pasta]Elena left four tapes for Haibara. (425 and 427) They are numbered 1-20 with the numbers split into groups of five. The numbers correspond to a message left by Elena for Haibara's same-numbered birthday; Conan listened to the beginning of the #11-15 tape and Elena’s recording was for 11-year-old Shiho. (File 425 p. 17). Conan mentioned that he moved to the 11 through 15 one because there were so many blank ones. I suppose the blank ones were some the earlier tapes (1-5 and 6-10) corresponding to when Ai was young. I wonder why they were blank? 
I would like to note that in number 18, Elena talks about if Shiho will regret what she is about to do. My guess is that refers to Shiho taking over the drug research or returning to the org from her studies abroad. I wonder how Elena would have known Ai was taking over the research at that particular age?
Something Elena said about herself at the part of the third tape meant for Ai’s 18th birthday surprised Ai, but we couldn’t hear what it was due to a scene switch. (You are old enough to hear this … I am really…)  Two ideas which take into account the information is something that you wouldn't tell someone until they were older and more mature: one was that she was telling Shiho that either Atsushi or Elena was still alive, and another is that one (or both) of her parents wasn't her real parent. (Her original parent(s) was someone significant) The reason I always thought it might have had something to do with the parents was Vermouth's smile when Agasa mentions what they might uncover about them. (Volume 41 chap 10)[/spoiler]

Edit: Scooped by Conia...


yep yep, cheers to both conia and Chekhov :) that was the scene :), EXCEPT, I couldn't find it :( Maybe I've mistaken, But I've check ep 340-341, 343-44... but couldn't find that particular part.... :(, I would love to know if you guys know the time and the ep XD


Episode 341, 20:10
This is when Haibara (and us) discover there were tapes hidden by Akemi.
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Re: Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Postby Eve » July 22nd, 2010, 11:48 pm

conia wrote:
Khinkhun wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:[quote="Khinkhun"]
wait, the things about Ai, do you have the cap when she was listening to her mothers' tapes, she suddenly froze as if hearing something "interesting/dangerous?" I forgot that ep but it was somewhere and I believe it's an important detail :)

Hold on a sec... V42-1 (425), V42-3 (427) are the chapters you most likely want, and episodes 341, 343, and 344 are the most likely.

[spoiler=copy pasta]Elena left four tapes for Haibara. (425 and 427) They are numbered 1-20 with the numbers split into groups of five. The numbers correspond to a message left by Elena for Haibara's same-numbered birthday; Conan listened to the beginning of the #11-15 tape and Elena’s recording was for 11-year-old Shiho. (File 425 p. 17). Conan mentioned that he moved to the 11 through 15 one because there were so many blank ones. I suppose the blank ones were some the earlier tapes (1-5 and 6-10) corresponding to when Ai was young. I wonder why they were blank? 
I would like to note that in number 18, Elena talks about if Shiho will regret what she is about to do. My guess is that refers to Shiho taking over the drug research or returning to the org from her studies abroad. I wonder how Elena would have known Ai was taking over the research at that particular age?
Something Elena said about herself at the part of the third tape meant for Ai’s 18th birthday surprised Ai, but we couldn’t hear what it was due to a scene switch. (You are old enough to hear this … I am really…)  Two ideas which take into account the information is something that you wouldn't tell someone until they were older and more mature: one was that she was telling Shiho that either Atsushi or Elena was still alive, and another is that one (or both) of her parents wasn't her real parent. (Her original parent(s) was someone significant) The reason I always thought it might have had something to do with the parents was Vermouth's smile when Agasa mentions what they might uncover about them. (Volume 41 chap 10)[/spoiler]

Edit: Scooped by Conia...


yep yep, cheers to both conia and Chekhov :) that was the scene :), EXCEPT, I couldn't find it :( Maybe I've mistaken, But I've check ep 340-341, 343-44... but couldn't find that particular part.... :(, I would love to know if you guys know the time and the ep XD


Episode 341, 20:10
This is when Haibara (and us) discover there were tapes hidden by Akemi.
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I mean the part when her mother said "I really..." on the tape, I couldn't find it :(
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Re: Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Postby Detective Tommy » July 23rd, 2010, 3:38 pm

Shinichi+Ran is still winning and Ai+Conan is not even close.
:D Hahahahahahaha.

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Re: Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Postby Tanner-kun » July 26th, 2010, 10:24 am

Detective Tommy wrote:Shinichi+Ran is still winning and Ai+Conan is not even close.
:D Hahahahahahaha.
and conan ayumi is not on the list. :( it would at least come in 3rd place.
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Re: Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Postby Detective Tommy » July 27th, 2010, 1:36 am

Xcommando wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote:Shinichi+Ran is still winning and Ai+Conan is not even close.
:D Hahahahahahaha.
and conan ayumi is not on the list. :( it would at least come in 3rd place.


Indeed.
But it's not necessary, because only 4 voted for others.

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Re: Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Postby Shuuichi Akai » July 27th, 2010, 9:00 am

Detective Tommy wrote:
Xcommando wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote:Shinichi+Ran is still winning and Ai+Conan is not even close.
:D Hahahahahahaha.
and conan ayumi is not on the list. :( it would at least come in 3rd place.


Indeed.
But it's not necessary, because only 4 voted for others.
haha... poor Ayumi, with less than 4 votes.
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Re: Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Postby Conia » July 27th, 2010, 11:17 am

Shuuichi Akai wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote:
Xcommando wrote:[quote="Detective Tommy"]
Shinichi+Ran is still winning and Ai+Conan is not even close.
:D Hahahahahahaha.
and conan ayumi is not on the list. :( it would at least come in 3rd place.


Indeed.
But it's not necessary, because only 4 voted for others.
haha... poor Ayumi, with less than 4 votes.
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Neither can also mean AiMitsu,AiGenta,ConanSonoko...
I'll let someone else complete the list :-*
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Re: Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Postby sstimson » July 27th, 2010, 3:23 pm

i will add just one after all way too many to list

Ran + Genta
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Re: Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Postby Detective Prince » August 9th, 2010, 3:24 am

Detective Tommy wrote:Shinichi+Ran is still winning and Ai+Conan is not even close.
:D Hahahahahahaha.
A+Conan is still cooler and Shinichi+Ran is not even close.
:D hahahahahahaha.

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