Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

[randompi314159]

Yeah, Ai's growth is noticeable and awesome. Though I still want to see more growth.

[baka1412]

If only we could know whose voting which pair..

I'd be able to send my Gay Ninja to intimidate them...

[James Rye]

If only we could know whose voting which pair..

I'd be able to send my Gay Ninja to intimidate them...

Oioi, i have the Gay Ninjas under my contract! THEY ARE MINE! MINE! Mi-wha-? You all quit? Why, i-? Cause baka1412 pays you the double amount of cookies!?! How can you do that, you-you-you GAY NINJAS!!!!! *eats lots of cookies to get over the loss of his henchmen*

I just don't think someone who had such an unfortunate and unpleasant childhood will have a normal adult life (I should have said "normal" rather than "successful", my original statement was too negative). She doesn't seem to value her own life much, if at all, as she has put herself in situations where she would have died if not for outside assistance. Having such a negative attitude about oneself doesn't seem to indicate a healthy state of mind.

Hm you might have something going on there.  I'm going to talk about that a bit with my own twist if you don't mind.

In anime, some characters with horrific past are  shown to be stable, intelligent, kind and usually "better and more talented" all around then characters who are "normal" decent childhoods.  Now I'm not saying that's not possible but I'm saying that people who have horrible horrific childhoods can result in them being really crippled later in life.

For example if a child is surrounded by scary people all the time at home the child would learn that people are dangerous and would grow up isolated from everyone else.  Or if a child is told that everything she does is wrong or bad then the child will have very low self esteem and would hate him/her self, etc...

Personally I believe things such as self esteem and learned beliefs could be changed as people grow up.  I think that's the case in Haibara  Though she grew up in a dangerous environment where she can trust no one, she learned to trust Agasa and open up to the Detective Boys.  Also though she believes she has done a lot of bad things and shouldn't live.  Through Ayumi and Conan she decided she won't run from her past or problems and face them by living. 

This is why Haibara's one of my favorite character ; ).  It's great seeing a character go through growth.
 

Let´s just say i write all of that using your account, okay?
Signed.

[scineram]

This is obvious. True Shiho fans can only vote one way.

[xpon]

[kkslider5552000]

I don't really have an Ai oTp, she is second favorite character, but she doesn't seem like the kind of personal who will be successful at love or at life in general for that matter.

I understand why you think she's not the kind of girl who'll be successful in love(in gosho's world,girls like Haibara doesn't deserve love apparently,contrary to the other "normal "girls ) but i don't know why you think she won't be successful at life...she seems to be a very independant and resourceful person...

anyway,an other couple thread,which will lead to an other war between fans
i don't even want to talk about them...as usual I voted for conan and ai...

I just wanna say that aicon fan aren't "delusionnal"or"crazy",as some intolerant people say...
on the contrary,we all know what will be the ending and we still supporting coai because we like them,not because it's canon...
and sorry if we don't feel anything with shinran relationship,it has nothing to do with logic

I just don't think someone who had such an unfortunate and unpleasant childhood will have a normal adult life (I should have said "normal" rather than "successful", my original statement was too negative). She doesn't seem to value her own life much, if at all, as she has put herself in situations where she would have died if not for outside assistance. Having such a negative attitude about oneself doesn't seem to indicate a healthy state of mind.

to be fair, Haibara hasn't been suicidal for...230+ episodes. Maybe she got over her anime tragic past

[Kleene Onigiri]

I don't really have an Ai oTp, she is second favorite character, but she doesn't seem like the kind of personal who will be successful at love or at life in general for that matter.

I understand why you think she's not the kind of girl who'll be successful in love(in gosho's world,girls like Haibara doesn't deserve love apparently,contrary to the other "normal "girls ) but i don't know why you think she won't be successful at life...she seems to be a very independant and resourceful person...

anyway,an other couple thread,which will lead to an other war between fans
i don't even want to talk about them...as usual I voted for conan and ai...

I just wanna say that aicon fan aren't "delusionnal"or"crazy",as some intolerant people say...
on the contrary,we all know what will be the ending and we still supporting coai because we like them,not because it's canon...
and sorry if we don't feel anything with shinran relationship,it has nothing to do with logic

I just don't think someone who had such an unfortunate and unpleasant childhood will have a normal adult life (I should have said "normal" rather than "successful", my original statement was too negative). She doesn't seem to value her own life much, if at all, as she has put herself in situations where she would have died if not for outside assistance. Having such a negative attitude about oneself doesn't seem to indicate a healthy state of mind.

to be fair, Haibara hasn't been suicidal for...230+ episodes. Maybe she got over her anime tragic past

She's just too busy stalking Okiya

[xpon]

so... only 10 member as ai fans.... huh

traitor

[Girl19]

so... only 10 member as ai fans.... huh

Ai fans ≠ AiCon fans.

Spoiler:

There are much more Ai fans than AiCon fans.

Spoiler:

And there are much, much more than only 10 AiCon fans around.

[xpon]

but atleast all ai fans should chose Ai x Con.. rather than Sin x Ran

[Kleene Onigiri]

but atleast all ai fans should chose Ai x Con.. rather than Sin x Ran

Maybe the Ai fans don't want ai to end up with conan. So they vote for shinxran? just a possibility :p

[Girl19]

but atleast all ai fans should chose Ai x Con.. rather than Sin x Ran

I voted for AiCon because I'm, besides being an Ai fan, also an AiCon fan.
But there are some Ai fans who don't support AiCon, so either they won't vote or they'll vote for ShinRan if they support it.

[xpon]

WHAT??? love Ai but not Conan?  like .... Ai x Gin Maybe?

[randompi314159]

but atleast all ai fans should chose Ai x Con.. rather than Sin x Ran

I voted for AiCon because I'm, besides being an Ai fan, also an AiCon fan.
But there are some Ai fans who don't support AiCon, so either they won't vote or they'll vote for ShinRan if they support it.

Yeah, I think I'm one of those people.

[Girl19]

WHAT??? love Ai but not Conan?  like .... Ai x Gin Maybe?

That's not what I said. I said they love Ai (and they most likely love Conan), but they don't love Ai+Conan as a pairing.
As for Ai+Gin, I love that pairing too, and I also love Ai+Conan. There's no rule that says you can't love more than one pairing.