Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

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Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

Shinichi+Ran
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Conan+Ai
131
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Neither one
19
5%
 
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Detective Tommy wrote: I'm confused. How is Ai+Conan more realistic in real life?
Despite the failing sarcastic comment somewhere near the end of the previous page, this is what I actually meant:
In real life, you rarely see 2 childhood friends getting married. It happens, but rarely. One, because most of the time you'd lose track of your childhood friends. Two, because even if you don't, it's kinda weird when you start seeing your childhood friend as your lover.
AiCon is more realistic because Ai and Conan weren't childhood friends, they grew separately and then they met. Each one of them learnt something they lacked from the other; it's easy to notice how both Ai and Conan positively changed after they met and spent several weeks/months together. There is a real character development going on between them, they're very compatible and they can understand each other in a blink of an eye.
Also, in real life, people wouldn't generally marry someone incompatible with them unless they want to divorce after a few weeks.

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By the way, Girl19, this post explained a lot. Very, very much. I apologize for being rude in the past, to all Conan/Ai fans. :/
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Abs. wrote: That's pretty sad, that she can't be happy at the end without a man. 
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Well that's just my opinion, as I believe everyone needs love to be happy.
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But usually, there are some people that share your opinion. And you're not a trouble-maker with your opinion as long as you don't "spam" it (like repeating your self over and over and over etc. so that if feels annoying. Something like it's off-topic a lot etc.) or if you force your own opinion on others and don't "bash" the opinions of others :x And you're not doing that :3
I see.. but not everyone has the decency to understand the opposite side's opinion like you do. Some would call the opposite side names, others would just use sarcasm because they can't give real arguments. Still, you're right and I guess I should try to state my opinion even if no one agrees with me, then just keep hoping that people will be as tolerant as you are. =)
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Girl19 wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote: I'm confused. How is Ai+Conan more realistic in real life?
Despite the failing sarcastic comment somewhere near the end of the previous page, this is what I actually meant:
In real life, you rarely see 2 childhood friends getting married. It happens, but rarely. One, because most of the time you'd lose track of your childhood friends. Two, because even if you don't, it's kinda weird when you start seeing your childhood friend as your lover.
AiCon is more realistic because Ai and Conan weren't childhood friends, they grew separately and then they met. Each one of them learnt something they lacked from the other; it's easy to notice how both Ai and Conan positively changed after they met and spent several weeks/months together. There is a real character development going on between them, they're very compatible and they can understand each other in a blink of an eye.
Also, in real life, people wouldn't generally marry someone incompatible with them unless they want to divorce after a few weeks.
Oh, I see what you mean by Ai+Conan being more realistic in real life.
It's kind of awkward dating your childhood best friend, because you talk about everything together.
So I understand how Ai+Conan would make more sense.  :'(

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Girl19 wrote: Also, in real life, people wouldn't generally marry someone incompatible with them unless they want to divorce after a few weeks.
Here we are with the echo chamber declarations again.

Ran will risk her life to save people she barely knows. Shin'ichi's will, too. Shiho won't (yet... she is developing that way, but no evidence she's there).

Ran has actually shown interest in some detective stories/manga. Shiho hasn't apart from the origin of her pseudonym.

Ran is in the same school. Note that in Japan, getting into a particular high-school isn't just a matter of geography, students have to qualify for the better schools. Sure Shin'ichi might be slumming for her sake, but would her mother have been allowed to slum for Kogoro's sake? Even Yukiko and Sonoko, who will probably never solve a case, are probably at least above average academically. Here Shiho is probably closer to Shin'ichi's level (if not way beyond it in a specialized sense), but Ran is still no mediocre intellect. Ran even learned mahjong, including it's jargon, in days. (No, I'm not a crazy fan wildly grasping at straws, the crazy fans were encouraged to note this about her in the official manga canon Love Conan fanbook.)

Both Ran and Shin'ichi are needy almost-stalker types. Haibara seems pretty level headed here, ready to accept someone she likes is out of reach. (I suppose that similarity here isn't really compatibility, though. I still think their needy love is likely to end in tragedy for them. Meh, I don't want Ran to die, but I don't want to see a repeat of Chotto Matte, either, with APTX replacing the role of the time machine... I'm not a fan of ShinXRan at all if Ran only lives or dies for the sake of Shin'ichi. That's a total waste of her potential, IMO.)

So, what do you have left that makes them so incompatible? Ran's superstitions and her rejection/lack of objective analysis? Depending on how much of that is moral choice, Shin'ichi's, "Does saving a life need a reason?" puts him closer to Ran than Haibara there, too.

Yes, I've made all those points before. But, the "incompatibility" claim is repeated an awful lot by you lot, too....
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Detective Tommy wrote:Generic isnt in the anime?
Just consider anything that is not in the regular manga volumes of Detective Conan to be fan fiction.  The anime also contains fan fiction.  Don't get confused now.
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Abs. wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote:Generic isnt in the anime?
Just consider anything that is not in the regular manga volumes of Detective Conan to be fan fiction.  The anime also contains fan fiction.  Don't get confused now.
Awww ):
I should really start reading the manga then.
Cause I thought the anime and manga were all the same.

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Detective Tommy wrote:
Abs. wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote:Generic isnt in the anime?
Just consider anything that is not in the regular manga volumes of Detective Conan to be fan fiction.  The anime also contains fan fiction.  Don't get confused now.
Awww ):
I should really start reading the manga then.
Cause I thought the anime and manga were all the same.
sadly no,the anime and the manga aren't exactly the same,in the anime they always add something or change some details to the story ,that's why I only read the manga... ::)
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AICHAN wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote:
Abs. wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote:Generic isnt in the anime?
Just consider anything that is not in the regular manga volumes of Detective Conan to be fan fiction.  The anime also contains fan fiction.  Don't get confused now.
Awww ):
I should really start reading the manga then.
Cause I thought the anime and manga were all the same.
sadly no,the anime and the manga aren't exactly the same,in the anime they always add something or change some details to the story ,that's why I only read the manga... ::)
yup.. I remember how they messed up the story with Akemi Miyano on episode 13, just to reconsider the case on episode 128 which is based on manga
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The differences between the anime (the anime adaptions of manga cases that is) and the manga are incredibly trivial, aside from the endlessly bitched about delaying/shelving of early BO cases. You can watch the anime and not be at all disadvantaged about the general direction of the story, though if you are interested in hints about future plot cases it makes sense to read the manga.
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dilbertschalter wrote: The differences between the anime (the anime adaptions of manga cases that is) and the manga are incredibly trivial, aside from the endlessly bitched about delaying/shelving of early BO cases. You can watch the anime and not be at all disadvantaged about the general direction of the story, though if you are interested in hints about future plot cases it makes sense to read the manga.
But, considering that the anime has a small difference from the manga.. I don't want to read the manga and get confuse when I watch the anime. I don't want to see new characters, new BO stories, etc and then not see them in the anime..

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Detective Tommy wrote:
dilbertschalter wrote: The differences between the anime (the anime adaptions of manga cases that is) and the manga are incredibly trivial, aside from the endlessly bitched about delaying/shelving of early BO cases. You can watch the anime and not be at all disadvantaged about the general direction of the story, though if you are interested in hints about future plot cases it makes sense to read the manga.
But, considering that the anime has a small difference from the manga.. I don't want to read the manga and get confuse when I watch the anime. I don't want to see new characters, new BO stories, etc and then not see them in the anime..
It's diferent but not THAT diferent the Anime from the Manga, It isn't like the Anime is going to have a ShinRan end and the Manga a ConAi end xD
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Detective Tommy wrote:
dilbertschalter wrote: The differences between the anime (the anime adaptions of manga cases that is) and the manga are incredibly trivial, aside from the endlessly bitched about delaying/shelving of early BO cases. You can watch the anime and not be at all disadvantaged about the general direction of the story, though if you are interested in hints about future plot cases it makes sense to read the manga.
But, considering that the anime has a small difference from the manga.. I don't want to read the manga and get confuse when I watch the anime. I don't want to see new characters, new BO stories, etc and then not see them in the anime..
Everything in the manga also happened in the anime. Just in the earlier episodes they changed a lot of stuff related to the BO/plot. But now they follow almost 100% the manga. Sometimes they miss some little points (but they don't skip important characters or events etc.)
So if you want to "deduct" something related to the plot, then you better use the manga as "proof" instead of the anime.
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Detective Tommy wrote:
dilbertschalter wrote: The differences between the anime (the anime adaptions of manga cases that is) and the manga are incredibly trivial, aside from the endlessly bitched about delaying/shelving of early BO cases. You can watch the anime and not be at all disadvantaged about the general direction of the story, though if you are interested in hints about future plot cases it makes sense to read the manga.
But, considering that the anime has a small difference from the manga.. I don't want to read the manga and get confuse when I watch the anime. I don't want to see new characters, new BO stories, etc and then not see them in the anime..
You can always read the manga and watch the anime at the same storyline. Like you can watch episodes 575 and 576 from the anime, and once you're done with them, you can read the manga files from those episodes :)
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xGinx wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote:
dilbertschalter wrote: The differences between the anime (the anime adaptions of manga cases that is) and the manga are incredibly trivial, aside from the endlessly bitched about delaying/shelving of early BO cases. You can watch the anime and not be at all disadvantaged about the general direction of the story, though if you are interested in hints about future plot cases it makes sense to read the manga.
But, considering that the anime has a small difference from the manga.. I don't want to read the manga and get confuse when I watch the anime. I don't want to see new characters, new BO stories, etc and then not see them in the anime..
It's diferent but not THAT diferent the Anime from the Manga, It isn't like the Anime is going to have a ShinRan end and the Manga a ConAi end xD
Huh? For me it's more the other way around. ConAi is anime and ShinRan is manga ;D
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Which one is more accurate when talking about the BO?
Because that is my biggest interest.

Things related to Bourbon, Akai, Jodie, Gin, Vermouth, Conan, Ai, etc.
Is Generic even in the manga yet?

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