Are you guys watching Sherlock? (BBC Series)

[HaganenoConan]

Well, like I said I'm not sure
It's already been some time since they showed Sherlock on TV.

[Aokochan]

Oh yes, I watched one episode! Each episode is like a movie, isn't it? I reallly enjoyed it!

[Akonyl]

gotta bump this for the new season.

Spoiler:

I realize that they can't kill Adler off in one episode, but the way they had Sherlock save her in the end just seemed a bit silly. Surely someone's bound to have found out that some guy infiltrated them and murdered them all rather than their hostage being successfully killed.

[caribou]

the first episode of series 2 was really good!! EVERYONE should go and watch it now. Lara Pulver as Irene Adler was just captivating, and Holmes and Watson perfect as usual. I duno if I can even watch the film adaptations with Robert Downey Jr and Jude Law any more (though I'm a Robert Downey Jr fan), the BBC Sherlock has totally spoiled it for me. x_x

Spoiler:

just some comments/thoughts about the episode because i must get over the awesomeness
- so was it all about the flight plan, rather than the compromising photos, all along? i was a bit confused by that.
- for someone who is supposed to be completely against sentiments, Mycroft showed quite a lot of emotions this episode. And he definitely showed a lot of sentiment for his brother with the whole phone scene asking John to look after Sherlock (I didn't like that part v much, too dramatic I thought).
- was also thrown off by the last bit. first how did Sherlock infiltrate the terrorist camp in goodness-knows-where, and how did he get away with it?? Mycroft is supposed to be even smarter than Sherlock, and he had been "very thorough", how did Sherlock fool him?
- I just kinda wish Irene Adler had pulled one over Sherlock right at the end, since she's supposed to be the only one who has ever beaten him.
- and i can't believe i didn't guess the right passcode, because i've been using a similar one on my phone for years!!

[Conan97]

9/10! It's really amazing!

[NightBaroness]

Well, I just saw the first episode of the first season, but I think it was very good. I bought the first season and I hope can manage to watch it soon <3

[mangaluva]

Just started watching because Jd- and Parkur linked me. On episode 2 now. Utterly loving it.

"I'm in shock, look, I've got a blanket."

[Akonyl]

@caribou:

Spoiler:

From my understanding, it depends whose point of view you're asking from. To Mycroft and the guy in Buckingham palace, it was about the pictures, however to Alder it was always about the plane code. The only reason she told them she "had the pictures but didn't want to do anything with them" was a ploy to get Sherlock interested so that they could meet and she could get him to break the code.

as for her pulling one over on him in the end, while Sherlock got the "last laugh", I think she pretty successfully won when she mailed the info to Moriarty. All Sherlock managed in the end was to make her not win even more, because in the end the plane plot still wouldn't fly. So, she's still the only one to have ever beaten him.

[caribou]

Spoiler:

Yes actually after having just watched it it seemed a bit confusing, but after thinking about it again I guess Mycroft/Buckingham Palace WERE interested in the pictures, though I guess they also realised the phone held other valuable info after the whole flight plan fiasco.

And yes I guess you're right that Adler 'won' when she texted the flight info to Moriarty. But I didn't like that Sherlock in the end took away her "insurance" and had to save her in the end... she wasn't meant to be a damsel in distress kind of character. I re-read the original A Scandal in Bohemia and there Adler managed to get away before Sherlock could get a hold of the picture, so she properly won by her wits. In the BBC version she got Sherlock to decode the flight info using her feminine wiles and eventually it was still Sherlock who won out in the battle of the brains.

Still it's a pretty minor gripe and honestly I don't always mind when they do things a bit differently from the book (like how Sherlock seems much more nasty and rude than in the books) because everything is acted, written and directed so brilliantly. I end up just watching and enjoying the ride anyway  :)

And yay I'm so glad more people are watching the show.  ;D that ending of episode 1 season 1 was fantastic. much love for John. *_*

[Akonyl]

Spoiler:

eh, I still sorta feel like you're writing Adler off a bit much. The end "battle" here might have been a bit different, but I still feel like she won with her wits here. You can't just write off feminine wiles as without intellectual merit in this case, as if it was just "oh hey this lady's hot" on Sherlock's part, then there's roughly 50% of the world's population that could do that, and it would have been over as soon as she walked in naked (as it was for Watson ). She used seduction to manipulate him yeah, but in the case of Sherlock, that level of manipulation takes a lot of wit. I feel like writing off her win as "she used seduction and manipulation, not brains" is the same as writing off Sherlock's deductions as "he just notices small details really easily". Not to mention, the only reason Sherlock won in the end was that he checked her pulse and found out that he had (possibly unknowingly) seduced her, so their wins are about equal imo.

As for the damsel in distress bit, I might agree with you there as I didn't exactly like the ending either, but I don't think it's a typical "damsel in distress saved by the white knight" scenario when the would-be white knight is the one who put her in distress in the first place by destroying her protection.

edit: also regarding episode 1 now that you mentioned it and Watson, (spoilerin just in case)

Spoiler:

I like how Watson in season 1 episode 1 kills the culprit, and Sherlock knows that, however in episode 1 of season 2 when Watson tackles Sherlock and goes "I was in the Army, I killed people!", Sherlock retorts by saying that Watson was a doctor. Even though he knows full well that Watson has definitely killed a guy before. :V

[leokiko]

I wasn't watching it...before I absorbed all the hype here, that is. Finished chapter 1, tottaly worth it.

[S.Vineyard]

Watched Series 2 Episode 1 last night. Brilliant episode. And Lara Pulver WAS "The Woman".

[caribou]

@Akonyl

Spoiler:

Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree about the last bit.  Don't get me wrong, I liked their interpretation of Adler's character (much more than in the Hollywood movies) and I enjoyed her interaction with Sherlock throughout the episode... But with the way the ending was written I just didn't feel like they departed completely as equals.

And yea Sherlock & John's fight = hilarious! I guess Sherlock was just retorting back that John's role in the army wasn't to kill people, even if he would have been trained to do so. Childish fight love it. and how awesome is it that Martin Freeman tackled Benedict Cumberbatch who is probably more than a head taller than him??

yees people everyone please catch up to the second season so we can have a massive discussion 8D

[mangaluva]

I'm caught up now XD

Spoiler:

The fight was the funniest thing ever, yeah XD Especially since Martin Freeman normally looks so cuddly! XDXDXD

Sherlock pretending to be a wimpy, terrified clergyman was utterly hilarious, as well. With Kate completely not buying it XD

[caribou]

Spoiler:

have got a (random) question about Kate. the girl who later on in the episode picked up John in the black car (and John thought it was Mycroft's assistant) -- was that Kate??