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Or you can do what Amy did, which I always used to scream at the screen for people to do- take turns winking each eye. You can stare forever so long as you wink one eye at a time. Good lass! ;D
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The Tenth Doctor beat the Ninth but lost to Rose Tyler XDXDXD I love it sooooooo much when David gets to talk in his actual Scottish accent... much sexier ;) (Why didn't he get to keep it? I mean, Christopher Eccleston got to use HIS accent... "If you're an alien, why do you sound like you're from the North?"  "Lots of planets have a North!" XDXDXD)

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so either amy pond is extremely easy or spacetime is trying to get the doctor some action.

although I wasn't too impressed with this episode because the angels thing seemed a little drawn out for two episodes (also I thought the stone defense was supposed to be something caused by observation, and that they weren't stone when they weren't being observed, yet when amy was in the forest with her eyes closed, not only were they stone while she wasn't actually looking at them, but they were stone while they were moving also, but whatever).

also,
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I have an inkling that at the end of all this time rift stuff, it's going to end with River killing the doctor so that she can then feed herself to the rift, becuase she'd then be a pretty big deal in spacetime herself, and then the doctor would magically pop back into existence because she was never around to kill him, and everyone ignores the various paradoxes introduced by mentioning how timey-wimey time is.
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Akonyl wrote: or spacetime is trying to get the doctor some action.
It's this one.
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Akonyl wrote: so either amy pond is extremely easy or spacetime is trying to get the doctor some action.

although I wasn't too impressed with this episode because the angels thing seemed a little drawn out for two episodes (also I thought the stone defense was supposed to be something caused by observation, and that they weren't stone when they weren't being observed, yet when amy was in the forest with her eyes closed, not only were they stone while she wasn't actually looking at them, but they were stone while they were moving also, but whatever).

also,
Spoiler:
I have an inkling that at the end of all this time rift stuff, it's going to end with River killing the doctor so that she can then feed herself to the rift, becuase she'd then be a pretty big deal in spacetime herself, and then the doctor would magically pop back into existence because she was never around to kill him, and everyone ignores the various paradoxes introduced by mentioning how timey-wimey time is.
I can understand her falling all over him as David Tennant. But why Matt Whatsit??

I noticed that, too. The Weeping Angels seem to be a plothole magnet :/ Maybe they were just being cautious in case she could see them (they were still stone when her eyes were closed because they were assuming that she could see them), but still... I don't think their creepiness was diluted by two episode, but I do think it was diluted slightly by actually seeing them move. I don't know, it just seemed creepier when you NEVER saw them move, so part of it was "was that there the whole time?", and then you got the creepy strobe-light movement. The CGI was really good and all, but I liked it better when you didn't see them move.
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It does sound like she kills the Doctor, doesn't it? But the wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey thing that breaks time seems to be on Amy's wedding day. That's two companions in a row that the Doctor's crashed their weddings, and I think this is the third that's somehow managed to break the nature of space and time (Rose hop-scotching back and forth over The Void AND imbibing the Time Vortex, Donna skipping between alternate realities and becoming the focus of all time, now Amy being stalked by cracks in the nature of time- wait, if you count Jack becoming a fixed point in time and space, Amy'd be the fourth to somehow break reality).

Also, am I the only MK fangirl sad enough to first think of the jewel whenever someone says "Pandora"? I mean, River mentioned "the Pandoraka" or whatever it was, and the first thing I thought of was the Doctor meeting Kid. *repeated headdesk*
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Akonyl wrote: so either amy pond is extremely easy or spacetime is trying to get the doctor some action.

although I wasn't too impressed with this episode because the angels thing seemed a little drawn out for two episodes (also I thought the stone defense was supposed to be something caused by observation, and that they weren't stone when they weren't being observed, yet when amy was in the forest with her eyes closed, not only were they stone while she wasn't actually looking at them, but they were stone while they were moving also, but whatever).

also,
Spoiler:
I have an inkling that at the end of all this time rift stuff, it's going to end with River killing the doctor so that she can then feed herself to the rift, becuase she'd then be a pretty big deal in spacetime herself, and then the doctor would magically pop back into existence because she was never around to kill him, and everyone ignores the various paradoxes introduced by mentioning how timey-wimey time is.
I can understand her falling all over him as David Tennant. But why Matt Whatsit??

I noticed that, too. The Weeping Angels seem to be a plothole magnet :/ Maybe they were just being cautious in case she could see them (they were still stone when her eyes were closed because they were assuming that she could see them), but still... I don't think their creepiness was diluted by two episode, but I do think it was diluted slightly by actually seeing them move. I don't know, it just seemed creepier when you NEVER saw them move, so part of it was "was that there the whole time?", and then you got the creepy strobe-light movement. The CGI was really good and all, but I liked it better when you didn't see them move.
Spoiler:
It does sound like she kills the Doctor, doesn't it? But the wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey thing that breaks time seems to be on Amy's wedding day. That's two companions in a row that the Doctor's crashed their weddings, and I think this is the third that's somehow managed to break the nature of space and time (Rose hop-scotching back and forth over The Void AND imbibing the Time Vortex, Donna skipping between alternate realities and becoming the focus of all time, now Amy being stalked by cracks in the nature of time- wait, if you count Jack becoming a fixed point in time and space, Amy'd be the fourth to somehow break reality).

Also, am I the only MK fangirl sad enough to first think of the jewel whenever someone says "Pandora"? I mean, River mentioned "the Pandoraka" or whatever it was, and the first thing I thought of was the Doctor meeting Kid. *repeated headdesk*
having them move also detracts from them because it sort of defeats their whole purpose. If they can move while remaining stone... why stop at all? Oh well.
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Just because it happens on amy's wedding day doesn't mean river can't still kill him though, it just means that amy's the reason everything's messed up and river decides to fix it.
And I think there's probably another bad enough fangirl to think that, but that doesn't make it any less bad :P

On a side note, I really hope that the duck pond without any ducks becomes a major plot point and not just an example of lost memory.
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mangaluva wrote:
I can understand her falling all over him as David Tennant. But why Matt Whatsit??
Aw, come on. He's cute-ish.

I agree that letting us see the Angels move was a bad call. And I actually thought Sacred Bob was going to do something to defeat them from beyond the grave.  :P The way it ended up was fine, though. And Amy's scene in the forest was intense.
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Did the Angels end up in the Void, or was it some other random space-time repository? Because the Void's getting pretty crowded. Next person who opens it is going to get a faceful of Dalek/Cyberman/Angel.  :D
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from what the doctor said in the most recent episode, it sounds like everyone's having a party at the end of the universe where everyone gets to not exist.
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pofa wrote:
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Did the Angels end up in the Void, or was it some other random space-time repository? Because the Void's getting pretty crowded. Next person who opens it is going to get a faceful of Dalek/Cyberman/Angel.  :D
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No, the void is the space between realities. These cracks are in time, not space, and according to the Doctor whatever fell in them got so destroyed that they were destroyed through their entire timeline. Like he said to Amy "the Angels will just kill you; if that time energy catches you you'll never have been born." If you go into that crack, you never existed; that's why the soldiers didn't remember each other. The Angels aren't in the Void because they've never existed, now.

Akonyl wrote: so either amy pond is extremely easy or spacetime is trying to get the doctor some action.
She was a kissogram.
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mangaluva wrote: She was a kissogram.
This is true.

Also, another crazy theory brought to you by people who talk about doctor who!
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In the most recent episode, The Doctor leaves Amy with the clerics in the forest. She calls out for him a few times, then he tells her she needs to trust him, and that it's never been more important. He then tells her to remember what he told her when she was 7. She wants to know what he meant, he just tells her that she has to remember and leaves. That's this scene right here:

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Seconds before this, when the doctor leaves Amy with the clerics (before coming back), is this screencap:

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Notice the difference? In the first picture, The Doctor is wearing his jacket, but he isn't in the second picture, because if you recall, the Angels stole his jacket. So the question is where his jacket came from, and the answer that people are speculating is that the jacket-wearing Doctor that asks Amy to remember is actually not the same one as the one that left her, and he's actually from a different time in The Doctor's life.

As to what he wanted her to remember, there's an interesting point in the first episode where The Doctor leaves Amy's 7 year old self, telling her he'll be back in 5 minutes, and as per the plot he actually didn't come back for another 12 years. But at the end of the episode, you see little 7 year old Amy Pond waiting on her suitcase in the morning, when she hears the sound of the Tardis, and the people who're pointing out this theory are saying that whatever he wants her to remember was something he said to her at that point. But then why doesn't she remember, and what's with the duck pond? MYSTERIES!
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That...is an interesting catch. Hope it means something and isn't just an editing snafu.
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As to what he wanted her to remember, there's an interesting point in the first episode where The Doctor leaves Amy's 7 year old self, telling her he'll be back in 5 minutes, and as per the plot he actually didn't come back for another 12 years. But at the end of the episode, you see little 7 year old Amy Pond waiting on her suitcase in the morning, when she hears the sound of the Tardis, and the people who're pointing out this theory are saying that whatever he wants her to remember was something he said to her at that point. But then why doesn't she remember, and what's with the duck pond? MYSTERIES!
Well, people were losing their memories in this episode because things were getting lost in the crack and time was being re-written. Maybe that's why she can't remember what the Doctor said. There was a crack right in her bedroom wall, after all, and even if the Doctor did "close" it, who knows what might have fallen in there.
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pofa wrote: That...is an interesting catch. Hope it means something and isn't just an editing snafu.
I thought it was just a continuity fail. I thought that what he meant might have been "You know when grownups tell you that it's going to be all right, but you know they're just lying to make you feel better? Well... it's going to be all right." XDXD
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Akonyl wrote:
As to what he wanted her to remember, there's an interesting point in the first episode where The Doctor leaves Amy's 7 year old self, telling her he'll be back in 5 minutes, and as per the plot he actually didn't come back for another 12 years. But at the end of the episode, you see little 7 year old Amy Pond waiting on her suitcase in the morning, when she hears the sound of the Tardis, and the people who're pointing out this theory are saying that whatever he wants her to remember was something he said to her at that point. But then why doesn't she remember, and what's with the duck pond? MYSTERIES!
Well, people were losing their memories in this episode because things were getting lost in the crack and time was being re-written. Maybe that's why she can't remember what the Doctor said. There was a crack right in her bedroom wall, after all, and even if the Doctor did "close" it, who knows what might have fallen in there.
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Those Cracks are following Amy somehow. Maybe on her wedding day she tries to leg it in the Tardis and ends up blowing up the time vortex or something XDXD Seriously, though, they are stalking her, and I had a crazy theory that maybe there's a teeny tiny Crack in her brain or something that's draining bits of memory. I'm still thinking about her calling a pond a duckpond without any ducks. That's like the inverse of the memory loss; she's gained a thought from nowhere.
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the episode next week looks like a good premise, I hope they don't mess it up.

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I thought there were a lot of good lines in this episode.

"Tell me the whole plan"!
*girls hiss*
"One day, that's going to work."

"The people upstairs are noisy."
"There's nobody living upstairs."
"I knew he was going to say that! Did anybody else know he was going to say that?"

"Good, I wouldn't want to jump out of the wrong cake. Again."

"Funny how you can say something in your head and it sounds alright..."

"...And she kissed me."
"And you kissed her back?!"
"No, I kissed her mouth."


I think one line that was good but wasn't pulled off well was "Because you didn't know Isabella's name." I think that should have sounded Dark and Angry and "You're hyped Now Fishlady" but instead it just sounded a bit whiny. I just don't think Matt Smith does the dark stuff as well as David Tennant. Matt Smith could never do The Time Lord Victorious.


That said, I can't wait for the next episode. Looks like fun :D


Also, who else is glad to know that "Yer Maw/Yo Mamma" jokes work on alien fish?
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