Are you guys watching Sherlock? (BBC Series)

[mangaluva]

http://mangafox.me/manga/sherlock_pink_iro_no_kenkyuu/

That's actually pretty awesome. Some of the artwork gets a little odd (there are quite a lot of early pages where the artist clearly has no idea how to draw Sherlock's mouth) but overall I like it.

[Conan-chandesune]

Watched the first 3 episodes yesterday.. back-to-back. I'm on a rave.!!!!!

[Conan-chandesune]

Saw the first episode of s2 again.. (for the 17th time) today... Damn the awesome music. I cant get it outta my head.

[Jd-]

As expected, Sherlock isn't going to make its premiere window. I had a feeling this was bound to happen due to the expansion of the Hobbit movies and Cumberbatch then suddenly signing up for so many new projects. Looks like it will premiere in December 2013 or January 2014 most likely.

[Commi-Ninja]

As expected, Sherlock isn't going to make its premiere window. I had a feeling this was bound to happen due to the expansion of the Hobbit movies and Cumberbatch then suddenly signing up for so many new projects. Looks like it will premiere in December 2013 or January 2014 most likely.

[mangaluva]

DDDDD:

They're going to oudo themselves every time. Season 4 will air in 2020.

[Hime-Chan]

and then maybe we'll have season 5 when they're in a retirement house! that'll be great, "the story of the stolen Jelly in the retirement house" it still won't be Lestrade's department, and Molly would still poke the dead old people...that's gonna be cute.

[blurfbreg]

I was thinking one random night how Holmes made a silly choice in the first episode (in season 1).

Spoiler: shouldn't be a spoiler, but just in case

Accepting to take the pill was a bad choice, even if he wanted to know if it kills him.
If both the pills actually contain the fatal substance, it doesn't matter which one he chose (and it's not really known by Holmes whether that would be the case since no one who survived the ordeal actually said anything). By taking it first, he can't actually tell whether he chose the right choice. Besides, there's no reason to suspect that the man wanted him to live (even though he said he has no "purpose" to live anymore). He wants to get more money for his granddaughter's cancer treatment (I believe) by killing off more people so that Moriarty can pay him more for each death. It's actually in the man's interest to kill off everyone he encounters.
Holmes should've just told the man to take the pill first. If the man falls dead afterwards, then he can check whether the other one is actually poisoned or not. If the man doesn't die after taking the pill, then Holmes can take the pill as part of the bargain for his "game".

[mangaluva]

I was thinking one random night how Holmes made a silly choice in the first episode (in season 1).

Spoiler: shouldn't be a spoiler, but just in case

Accepting to take the pill was a bad choice, even if he wanted to know if it kills him.
If both the pills actually contain the fatal substance, it doesn't matter which one he chose (and it's not really known by Holmes whether that would be the case since no one who survived the ordeal actually said anything). By taking it first, he can't actually tell whether he chose the right choice. Besides, there's no reason to suspect that the man wanted him to live (even though he said he has no "purpose" to live anymore). He wants to get more money for his granddaughter's cancer treatment (I believe) by killing off more people so that Moriarty can pay him more for each death. It's actually in the man's interest to kill off everyone he encounters.
Holmes should've just told the man to take the pill first. If the man falls dead afterwards, then he can check whether the other one is actually poisoned or not. If the man doesn't die after taking the pill, then Holmes can take the pill as part of the bargain for his "game".

The murderer was playing Sherlock's nature very well. He's extremely prideful and has an addictive personality (just look at his reaction to not being able to find cigarettes), so it wasn't hard for the murderer to goad him into being incautious, to taking the gamble just to see if he's right.

Sherlock's not as logical as he'd like to think sometimes.

[Pmofmalasia]

I'm not sure if anyone else has seen this theory about how Sherlock survived (or really how he faked being dead, this obviously wouldn't be the whole trick), but if it's true I'm going to be pretty disappointed, since you don't check the radial pulse of a patient if you're checking whether they're alive or not... you'd check their carotid pulse.  It worked in the DC episode, since he was only trying to stop blood flow to his arm, but there's no way it would convince anyone that you were dead.  Here's hoping that those scenes with him bouncing the ball were just red herrings...

[mangaluva]

John didn't get a proper check in of Sherlock's radial pulse; he briefly grabbed the only bit of Sherlock that he could reach (his wrist) before getting pulled away from Sherlock by the onlookers, either because they could tell that he was in no fit state to do a proper medical check or because they were tasked with keeping people away from the "body" (depending on how into conspiracy you are).

Also, I just had a terrible moment of realizing that this forms an utterly tragic parallel to the "take my hand" moment earlier in the episode. THANKS, NOW I HAVE NEW TEARS TO CRY T_T

[Pmofmalasia]

Yeah, but that would only serve to trick Watson... any of the other medical professionals at the scene would have realized pretty quickly that he was actually alive, so it would have to be some sort of conspiracy for it to work... which is no fun if you ask me.  However, it makes sense, as there were around 5 doctors who happened to be at the scene (the first time I watched it I assumed they were near a hospital, unless I've forgotten it I don't think they ever actually indicated that they were near one) and Watson gets hit by the guy on the bike, if not for this then he would have been first or at least sooner to the body.

Sorry for the tears, but just remember, Sherlock lives! And will probably arrogantly announce it as such to Watson

[mangaluva]

I assume that those "medical professionals" who were first on the scene were plants. They just picked him up on a stretcher without checking him, which is NOT WHAT YOU DO WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS JUST FALLEN OFF A BUILDING. First, you check if they're alive (it does happen). If he had been alive, they would NOT have moved him like that, and certainly not that soon, not before wrapping him in splints and braces to prevent anything being damaged when they moved him.

If he wasn't alive, they would have to cordon off the area and not move the body without the police's permission.

Either way, things were not done according to protocol. In all likelihood, they were plants, getting him out of there, quite possibly organized by Molly who, working in a morgue, would be best placed to find a body to replace Sherlock's (it's so sad how fast heads decay when they've been smashed in...) We never did find out what Sherlock needed Molly's help for.

[Commi-Ninja]

Don't read this if you don't want what might be a spoiler.  Unconfirmed by myself.

Spoiler: Potential 3rd season spoiler

I can't confirm this, but my friend read somewhere that when John finds out Sherlock is alive, he punches him.  I hope this is true, because that would be awesome!

[Pmofmalasia]

Oh yeah, pretty much everything they did was against protocol.  At the very least a spineboard would be used, they didn't do a rapid trauma assessment, and like you said that type of move wouldn't be used unless there was an emergency (which you could say there was, if that emergency was "they'll find out he's alive").  As for splinting, that's a grey area, since they appear to actually be outside a hospital (they bring the stretcher into a building, not an ambulance) they'd be more concerned with the immediate life threat of him losing all that blood than a few broken bones (except the spine, but if they'd spineboarded him that wouldn't be a problem, or take very long with as many people as there were).  Oh and btw, I didn't notice at first, but one of the doctors actually does take his carotid pulse as Watson is running up to Sherlock.

As for how quickly they were there, if they are indeed outside of a hospital then it's not really too surprising, it'd be hard to believe that Watson was the only one who saw him on the roof so they easily could have been notified.  If it's not outside of a hospital, then they would clearly be planted there, since EMTs would be called, and I don't know any EMTs that wear scrubs .  I'm not familiar with London street signs, but it looks like they're taking him to a parking garage (there's a parking sign in the background, but I can't really tell if it's for a garage or street parking) and not to an ambulance around the corner, which wouldn't make sense in the first place, why not park as close as possible.

Spoiler: the part I'm talking about

All in all I do think that they were planted there, but I'm more convinced by the treatment that they gave than how quickly they arrived.  I'm hoping that the poor treatment was relevant, and not just a mistake.  I'm thinking that he was alive when the doctors got to him, and his body wasn't switched then, since he specifically asked Watson to stay where he was and watch him jump.  If there was some sort of switch between the jump and when Watson reaches him (and this isn't likely in the first place, since this isn't DC and nobody has Vermouth/KID-quality disguising skills) then it would be better for Sherlock if Watson took his eyes off of him.  Which, obviously, leaves the mystery of how he knew he would survive the fall.... and I got nothing at the moment.

Don't read this if you don't want what might be a spoiler.  Unconfirmed by myself.

Spoiler: Potential 3rd season spoiler

I can't confirm this, but my friend read somewhere that when John finds out Sherlock is alive, he punches him.  I hope this is true, because that would be awesome!

Hahaha I would expect nothing less from Watson.