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Akonyl wrote: unless I was spacing out and missed it,
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did they ever say anything about the wife's body/ a confession? Because while it's not really necessary, it felt a bit weird how they established that he killed one person to prep for another, then never actually closed out the details on the other's murder.
No, they didn't. The show's starting to get sub-par.
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Irene adler is alive and will be back for the last 3 episodes of the season. Hope that helps this sinkin' show.
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How is this series going? I haven't watched the last 3 or 4 episodes, I think. I just lost interest in it somehow.
In other news: only about half a year until Sherlock returns!
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Cider wrote:How is this series going? I haven't watched the last 3 or 4 episodes, I think. I just lost interest in it somehow.
In other news: only about half a year until Sherlock returns!
Cant wait for Sherlock!!! As for the episode, they are sub-par. Nothing special at all.
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Conan-chandesune wrote:
Cider wrote:How is this series going? I haven't watched the last 3 or 4 episodes, I think. I just lost interest in it somehow.
Cant wait for Sherlock!!! As for the episode, they are sub-par. Nothing special at all.
I wouldn't call them "sub-par", it depends on what oyu are searching for in a TV-show. The episodes thus far are enjoyable, and we're learning more and more about Sherlock. Even though, I still think the series could also not be related to sherlock and still work fine :)
In other news: only about half a year until Sherlock returns!
This is depressing :|
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Hime-Chan wrote:
Conan-chandesune wrote:
Cider wrote:How is this series going? I haven't watched the last 3 or 4 episodes, I think. I just lost interest in it somehow.
Cant wait for Sherlock!!! As for the episode, they are sub-par. Nothing special at all.
I wouldn't call them "sub-par", it depends on what oyu are searching for in a TV-show. The episodes thus far are enjoyable, and we're learning more and more about Sherlock. Even though, I still think the series could also not be related to sherlock and still work fine :)
In other news: only about half a year until Sherlock returns!
This is depressing :|
I call them sub-par as i expect any Holmes show to be based on Logic,mostly. But this is more like Castle or CSI. Holmes should figure stuff out quickly, which is not the case here. Holmes should never be wrong, which again is not the case here.
The episodes are very Traditional in nature. Dakara...... sub-par yondeita.
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"Holmes should never be wrong." hahahahahaha
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Commi-Ninja wrote:"Holmes should never be wrong." hahahahahaha

Warui?
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Conan-chandesune wrote:
Commi-Ninja wrote:"Holmes should never be wrong." hahahahahaha

Warui?
Holmes is human, and like all humans, imperfect. He can be wrong - it just doesn't happen very often.
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While Holmes's methods of abductive reasoning and concise knowledge and recall often led to the right solution to cases, there were a few choice times he was either wrong or slightly wrong, and that's one thing this series undoubtedly gets right. This is something I've always loved about the canon and it makes the character even more special and interesting, to me. If we know for certain going in that Holmes will get everything right, we know to never doubt anything he says and can always take his observations without fault (which is one aspect of Conan I don't like, that Conan is virtually always right with exceedingly few instances of being wrong or outdone).

Holmes's most famous miss was in...
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The Yellow Face, in which Holmes followed his normal reasoning pattern but ended up at a completely wrong solution.
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Jd- wrote:While Holmes's methods of abductive reasoning and concise knowledge and recall often led to the right solution to cases, there were a few choice times he was either wrong or slightly wrong, and that's one thing this series undoubtedly gets right. This is something I've always loved about the canon and it makes the character even more special and interesting, to me. If we know for certain going in that Holmes will get everything right, we know to never doubt anything he says and can always take his observations without fault (which is one aspect of Conan I don't like, that Conan is virtually always right with exceedingly few instances of being wrong or outdone).

Holmes's most famous miss was in...
Spoiler: -ORIGINAL STORY SPOILER-
The Yellow Face, in which Holmes followed his normal reasoning pattern but ended up at a completely wrong solution.

But,dear sir, he was wrong JUST once fully, and the other times, he was partially wrong in canon(i can count them on my hands), it was a single detail. Being wrong once an episode and changing his theory twice in an episode gets under my neck. Sorry, cant help it.
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^ I don't think that the 21st century viewers would sit through an entire season of Sherlock Holmes being right all the time...
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I just started watching through this. I'm up to episode 12 so far and I'm enjoying it. I don't mine female!Watson (since it hasn't changed the dynamic of their relationship one bit; I swear there's more sexual tension between Robert Downey Jr and Jude Law anyway...) as much as the fact that her backstory's been changed so that she's not a war hero, she's a disgraced surgeon. That just kinda makes me sad that her badass has been nerfed at the same time that her gender was changed. It just has bad connotations.

I really like Johnny Lee Miller's Sherlock. He's different from the other three that I'm familiar with (Benedict Cumberbatch, RDJ and Jeremy Brett) in that he's probably the most emotive of them, and correspondingly the most nihilistic (I loved Joan's comment about how he can see everything about a person at a glance, and then that he owns no mirrors). It makes him different while still being so very Sherlock in his "surrounded by idiots" way. It also, I think, makes him one of the kindest to his Watson--not that he's, y'know, never an asshole, he's still Sherlock. It's just nice to see a Watson that doesn't have an air of being a constant intellectual punching bag. Actually, I like how much willpower she has when dealing with Holmes. She respects him, but it never seems to border on subservience as it does with other Watsons. Go Joan!

Kinda sad that Irene Adler got fridged, though. I'm hoping that she'll turn out to be alive later, possibly with her husband that no other modern adaptation ever acknowledges as existing.

For that matter, I like seeing a lot of original cases. The classics are good cases and all, but when you've seen them done at least twice each, it's fun to see something new.

Basically, I like and will continue to watch both this and Sherlock. Deal with it, fandom wars.
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Manga bringing them truthies, once more affirming her place in the Hall of Hypeness.
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Jd- wrote:Manga bringing them truthies, once more affirming her place in the Hall of Hypeness.
I... I'm honoured *theatrical non-makeup-smudging tears*
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